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Too Many Janes: Finding Jane Van Cleave

  • Kimsey

Often with a woman what you don’t know is the maiden name. That as the case with Nancy, wife of George Washington Ratliff, who turned out to be Nancy McGee, a well documented Scotch-Irish family. But sometimes the problem is too many people in a family are named the same! And that is the case here. If one of your progenitors was Jane Vanderbilt, would not every family want to name a daughter Jane? And what that means is just about every tree containing the Van Cleave family has made a mess of the Jane Van Cleaves. The familysearch tree has gone as far as having a Jane Van Cleeve with two husbands during the same period and a bunch of kids in both families! It turns out the family is well documented by a number of different people so if you make a rather complete tree, you can figure out which Jane is which. Also keep reading for the Jane Van Cleave who married a brother of Daniel Boone!

Dutch East India Company

The Van Cleave story starts when Jan Van Cleef immigrated to New Netherland about 1653. The colony of New Netherland was established by the Dutch West India Company in 1624 and grew to encompass all of present-day New York City and parts of Long Island, Connecticut and New Jersey. What is now New York City began as New Amsterdam.

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The Klamm Families

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I was planning a post about the lives of my paternal grandparents John Phillip Klamm and Elizabeth Suzanna Brenner, but decided I should first explain the Klamm families since both of them are descended from Klamms.

After investigating the Klamm families in the Kansas City area that I knew about, I concluded there are probably three unrelated Klamm ancestors in the area.
1) John Klamm and Simon Klamm (immigrants), sons of Johann Michael Klamm.
2) Susanna (Groh) Klamm (immigrant) and George Martin Klamm, son of Karl Friederich Klamm.
3) Peter Elisha Klamm (immigrant), son of Johann Christoph Klamm.

Immigrant brothers John and Simon Klamm, sons of Johann Michael Klamm
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Do We Have an American Indian Ancestor?

  • Kimsey

You may have an American Indian ancestor if you are a descendant of my grandmother Dessie Ellen (Kimsey) Anderson. This is a very hot topic among the descendants of Nathaniel Davis (ca 1665-1740), of which there are apparently millions… Some say yes, others say nope.

The story is that Nathaniel Davis (ca. 1655-1740, my 7th great grandfather) married Elizabeth Hughes, who was half American Indian. The story goes that her mother was named Nicketti and her father was an Indian Trader some say was named Hughes.1

Left: John Smith and an Indian. Center: Pocahontas (married John Rolfe). Right: John Floyd

I have decided that I think the story is likely true and I’m going to tell you why I think so. Versions of this story have been told by many descendant families of Nathaniel Davis, and published in their family histories. The family of a famous descendant, John Floyd, governor of Virginia, never denied their ancestry. I’m going to quote from two family histories. Some other information from the Floyd family will be noted later in this post.

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How Many Ancestors

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“You might have only thought you are a product of your parents (Mom and Dad), but it does go much further than those two. If you double the number of ancestors in each generation, 2 parents, 4 grandparents, and so on, we can see that by the time you are back 10 generations, you have the potential for 1,024 ancestral lines. True, you might not learn the names of over one thousand ancestors, but they did exist.”1.

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Kerr’s Creek Massacre

  • Kimsey

Kerr’s Creek is located between the Blue Ridge Mountains and the Allegheny Mountains. It is a beautiful valley, but it was not safe. Kerr’s Creek Massacre is very difficult to describe. The dates, even the years aren’t even known, the names of those settlers killed are not known for sure. What we do know is sort of why…

Kerr’s Creek, Virginia

The Kerrs Creek raids possibly tie with all three wars in the last half of the 1700s – the French and Indian War (1756–1763), the Pontiac Conspiracy (1760–1763) and the American Revolution. Also, it is said that the location of this community was on a crossing of two Indian trails. The Indians, it is agreed, were Shawnee. It is also agreed there were at least two raids on the Kerr’s Creek community, a couple of years apart. Even maybe three: possibly 1759, 1763 and 1764.

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Native Americans in the Riverside area

In this blog post I want to cover some history of the area that I and my grandparents and great grandparents lived in. First, what was there for thousands of years before the Europeans arrived, who was there just before they arrived, and then a bit about the arrival of Europeans.

Not all of this would be considered genealogy, but it is my history because I wandered around in the Indian mounds, often walked the plowed fields after a rain in search of arrowheads and potshards, and participated in a Shippee dig on the Renner property in 1954 at the age of 13. The photo below is of some of the items I found walking the plowed fields after a rain, mostly arrowheads and potshards. Lower left is the grinding stone used for grinding grain.

Judy’s treasures

My great aunt Carolina (Brenner) Renner encouraged the exploration of the prehistoric site on her property and several excavations were made during her lifetime. Gary Brenner was the driving force behind the creation of The Renner-Brenner Site Park, as is explained on his website here: https://www.rennerbrennersitepark.com/

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Finding Nancy

  • Anderson

If Samuel and Dessie Anderson are your grandparents or great grandparents, Nancy (McGee) and Washington Ratliff are your ancestors too.

George Washington Ratliff (~1831-1889) (who was generally called Washington) is my second great grandfather, maternal grandfather of my grandpa Sam Anderson. There are a series of sad stories on this side of the family involving early parental deaths leaving the children without parents. George Washington’s father John Ratliff died in 1847 and apparently his mother was already dead because the children were put into guardianship of first William Bowlin, then after he died, his wife Elizabeth Bowlin. We have no knowledge of the connection of the Bowlin family and the Ratliff family.

Grandpa Anderson’s parents and grandparents

So we find him and his siblings for some years in census records as living with the Bowlin family. Then he grows up and marries and has his own household. But who did he marry? All we know, again from census records, is her name was Nancy1. I had been unable to find out any more until recently. All we know about Washington Ratliff’s wife is the name Nancy and an approximate birth date, both obtained from census records.

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Day of the Dead

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Our dead are never dead to us, until we have forgotten them… (George Eliot)

When I was a child I enjoyed visiting the St. Matthews cemetery. St. Matthews had family pot luck dinners that I really appreciated as a child – there were so many good cooks in the community! And after we ate, we kids would often go outside and play in the cemetery, where our ancestors were buried. The living and the dead.

I’m sure you’ve heard of Day of the Dead and maybe wondered what it is and if it relates to Halloween… Apparently its origin is not well known, but it’s believed to be a combination of native cultures with All Saints’ Day and All Souls’ Day of the Catholics. The pre-Hispanic cultures believed mourning the dead was disrespectful – death was a natural phase of life’s continuum. The dead were still part of the community and kept alive in memory and spirit. And, during Day of the Dead, they temporarily return to earth.

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Finding Adolph Truskey

  • Brenner
Snippet from Carolina Brenner Renner

Adolph Truskey is an ancestor of the descendants of John Peter Brenner and Caroline Dorethea Wegner. Adolph Truskey (1830-1950) is my second great grandfather. In my mother’s family I have back to an 11th great grandfather, Antoine Tibault (1593-1639). Even the Brenner/Klamm tree goes back to a 7th great grandfather. But with the Truskeys we were stuck.

Nor could I find anyone else who knew any more about our Truskeys than we did. Trees all ended with Adolph and Gustave. Searches came up empty for all of us, everywhere. Until this week.

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Witches, Records, Stories, and Lies

I ran across again a story that appeared very believable that one of my ancestors was tried as a witch in England. A number of apparent sources were provided and various other bits of information about my ancestors. Since I try to prove what I put in my tree, I looked into his sources and could find none of them. So I looked further and discovered that apparently someone had made up a lot of events about this ancestor, his parents, his early life in Virginia that has been propagated into almost every family tree involving this person, but apparently no one else can prove what he wrote!

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