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DNA and Genealogy

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The first news is so far I have found NO NPE in either line. What is an NPE? Non Parental Event.1 In other words, my paper records do agree with DNA. All lines have been confirmed to around the mid 1700s or as far as I have been able to go. I need to learn more about using DNA results to try to find our last few missing “recent” ancestors. One is the wife of John Ratliff (ca 1805-1847), my third great grandfather. I’m also not sure of his parents, but from DNA I know who his grandparents are. Also, I do not know for sure who the parents of our second great grandfather Alexander Anderson (1805-1884) is. We think the name is Archibald, but I cannot be sure of a suitable person in the records. The good news is I have a clue that might work out. We do know the ancestry of his wife.

The chart below is how ancestry.com displays something they call Thrulines, and is so far the most important way that I am using the DNA information. What they do is compare DNA matches with me to other people’s ancestry trees comparing them to my tree. In this case it works pretty well because Robert Davis’ ancestry is well known and that means most people’s trees are reasonably correct. I conclude from this that I am related to 5 children of Robert Davis. That does not prove the name of Robert Davis, but does provide confirmation that I am related to 4 other children who we believe are children of Robert Davis. I say this because sometimes we do know the names of the children, but not the parent’s name, usually in the case of missing or incorrect wife’s name. All I know is I am related to 78 other people who claim to descend from Robert Davis. But in this easy case, this is sufficient for my purposes, which is to confirm that Robert Davis is my ancestor.

Robert Davis (ca 1707-1780)) DNA Matches
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The Babers and Kimseys in Platte County, Missouri

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This post is about ancestors and relatives of the descendants of Dessie Kimsey Anderson. I’ve been working on understanding their migrations. The Anderson/Kimsey families’ American story begins in Virginia. From there they moved to Georgia or North Carolina or Kentucky or Tennessee. Then they went to Missouri. The early ones went to Howard County, on the Missouri River, about in the middle of the state. Then after the Platte Purchase (1836), to that part of Missouri. Not our ancestors, but many of their relatives moved on to Oregon or California. Our ancestors tended to be on the early wave of such migrations, often traveling and living on the dangerous frontier.

Today I’m focusing on a story about Robert Baber, as told in The History of Clay and Platte Counties, Missouri. Our ancestors John and Delila (Davis) Baber traveled from Kentucky to Platte County, Missouri, between 1830 and 1839, with their three children (at the time) Elizabeth, Martha (our ancestor), and the Robert of this story. I’ve included a part of our family tree, which includes Robert Baber (born around 1766), his son John Baber (born in 1795) and John’s children Robert (of this story) and our Martha. Another child, John, was born in Missouri.

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John Philip and Elizabeth (Brenner) Klamm

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John Philip Klamm was born 17 December, 1880 at his parents’ farm in Clay County, Missouri. In 1900 he was living with his parents and the census reported he was a “farm laborer”. On August 13, 1902, he married Elizabeth Susanna Brenner.

Philiip (or “J.P.”) and “Lizzie” lived various places throughout their lives and it was a bit difficult to figure out, so here’s our best guess. They were still in Clay County in May 1903 when their first child, Herman, was born. Their sons Oliver and Ralph were born in 1906 and 1908 in Bonner Springs, Kansas. According to a postcard of the Bonner Springs fire in November 1908, Philip and a brother had a harness shop in Bonner Springs. Since most of the downtown was destroyed, they probably moved back to Clay County after the fire.

In the 1910 census Philip is farming in Clay County on rented property next to the property of his father. The family is still in Clay County in 1912 and 1915 when Frances and Della are born. But in 1918 Winston is born in Ottawa, Kansas. Family history is that they lost their farm in Clay County.

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Independence Day

A couple of days ago I decided to see how many of my ancestors had participated in the Revolutionary War and I found 12 ancestors. My guess is there were more, but some of my ancestors I don’t even know their names and in other cases there is very little information about them. The way I found them is by finding which ancestors had been used for joining the DAR is Daughters of the American Revolution or the Sons of the American Revolution. You can join such organizations if you can prove you are descended from a qualifying ancestor. Note, these are all maternal ancestors. My father’s family did not come to America until the early 1840s.

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Too Many Janes: Finding Jane Van Cleave

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Often with a woman what you don’t know is the maiden name. That as the case with Nancy, wife of George Washington Ratliff, who turned out to be Nancy McGee, a well documented Scotch-Irish family. But sometimes the problem is too many people in a family are named the same! And that is the case here. If one of your progenitors was Jane Vanderbilt, would not every family want to name a daughter Jane? And what that means is just about every tree containing the Van Cleave family has made a mess of the Jane Van Cleaves. The familysearch tree has gone as far as having a Jane Van Cleeve with two husbands during the same period and a bunch of kids in both families! It turns out the family is well documented by a number of different people so if you make a rather complete tree, you can figure out which Jane is which. Also keep reading for the Jane Van Cleave who married a brother of Daniel Boone!

Dutch East India Company

The Van Cleave story starts when Jan Van Cleef immigrated to New Netherland about 1653. The colony of New Netherland was established by the Dutch West India Company in 1624 and grew to encompass all of present-day New York City and parts of Long Island, Connecticut and New Jersey. What is now New York City began as New Amsterdam.

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The Klamm Families

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I was planning a post about the lives of my paternal grandparents John Phillip Klamm and Elizabeth Suzanna Brenner, but decided I should first explain the Klamm families since both of them are descended from Klamms.

After investigating the Klamm families in the Kansas City area that I knew about, I concluded there are probably three unrelated Klamm ancestors in the area.
1) John Klamm and Simon Klamm (immigrants), sons of Johann Michael Klamm.
2) Susanna (Groh) Klamm (immigrant) and George Martin Klamm, son of Karl Friederich Klamm.
3) Peter Elisha Klamm (immigrant), son of Johann Christoph Klamm.

Immigrant brothers John and Simon Klamm, sons of Johann Michael Klamm
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Do We Have an American Indian Ancestor?

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You may have an American Indian ancestor if you are a descendant of my grandmother Dessie Ellen (Kimsey) Anderson. This is a very hot topic among the descendants of Nathaniel Davis (ca 1665-1740), of which there are apparently millions… Some say yes, others say nope.

The story is that Nathaniel Davis (ca. 1655-1740, my 7th great grandfather) married Elizabeth Hughes, who was half American Indian. The story goes that her mother was named Nicketti and her father was an Indian Trader some say was named Hughes.2

Left: John Smith and an Indian. Center: Pocahontas (married John Rolfe). Right: John Floyd

I have decided that I think the story is likely true and I’m going to tell you why I think so. Versions of this story have been told by many descendant families of Nathaniel Davis, and published in their family histories. The family of a famous descendant, John Floyd, governor of Virginia, never denied their ancestry. I’m going to quote from two family histories. Some other information from the Floyd family will be noted later in this post.

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How Many Ancestors

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“You might have only thought you are a product of your parents (Mom and Dad), but it does go much further than those two. If you double the number of ancestors in each generation, 2 parents, 4 grandparents, and so on, we can see that by the time you are back 10 generations, you have the potential for 1,024 ancestral lines. True, you might not learn the names of over one thousand ancestors, but they did exist.”3.

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Kerr’s Creek Massacre

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Kerr’s Creek is located between the Blue Ridge Mountains and the Allegheny Mountains. It is a beautiful valley, but it was not safe. Kerr’s Creek Massacre is very difficult to describe. The dates, even the years aren’t even known, the names of those settlers killed are not known for sure. What we do know is sort of why…

Kerr’s Creek, Virginia

The Kerrs Creek raids possibly tie with all three wars in the last half of the 1700s – the French and Indian War (1756–1763), the Pontiac Conspiracy (1760–1763) and the American Revolution. Also, it is said that the location of this community was on a crossing of two Indian trails. The Indians, it is agreed, were Shawnee. It is also agreed there were at least two raids on the Kerr’s Creek community, a couple of years apart. Even maybe three: possibly 1759, 1763 and 1764.

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Native Americans in the Riverside area

In this blog post I want to cover some history of the area that I and my grandparents and great grandparents lived in. First, what was there for thousands of years before the Europeans arrived, who was there just before they arrived, and then a bit about the arrival of Europeans.

Not all of this would be considered genealogy, but it is my history because I wandered around in the Indian mounds, often walked the plowed fields after a rain in search of arrowheads and potshards, and participated in a Shippee dig on the Renner property in 1954 at the age of 13. The photo below is of some of the items I found walking the plowed fields after a rain, mostly arrowheads and potshards. Lower left is the grinding stone used for grinding grain.

Judy’s treasures

My great aunt Carolina (Brenner) Renner encouraged the exploration of the prehistoric site on her property and several excavations were made during her lifetime. Gary Brenner was the driving force behind the creation of The Renner-Brenner Site Park, as is explained on his website here: https://www.rennerbrennersitepark.com/

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