Judy's Ancestors

Person Page 61

Huldah ("Hiley") Kimsey

F, #1501, b. 21 January 1810, d. 7 March 1879

Parents

FatherJudge James Kimsey, Jr (b. 30 May 1784, d. 1862)
MotherHannah Jane McCracken (b. 26 April 1784, d. 25 June 1863)
Pedigree Link
Birth21 January 1810In Madison County, Mississippi Territory, United States.1
Death7 March 1879At age 69 in Polk County, Oregon, United States.2
MiscSpelling variations: Spelling Variations: Hilah/Hilie/Hiley; Kimsey/Kimzey.
MiscEarly Oregonian Search.3
Misc22 September 1828Married Absalom Smith in Jackson County, Missouri, United States.
Misc1 February 1864Husband's will.4
Last Edited20 August 2022

Citations

  1. [S2239] "Oregon Secretary of State Archives Division: Early Oregonian Person Profile." Secure https://secure.sos.state.or.us/prs/profile.do?ancRecordNumber=49359. Accessed 20 Aug. 2022.
  2. [S2240] "Huldah “Hiley” Kimsey Smith (1810-1879)." Find a Grave Memorial https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/18049592/huldah-smith?_gl=1*pw7tsz*_ga*ODYwNTEzMDMwLjE2NTkyODMzMjU.*_ga_4QT8FMEX30*MTY2MTAzMjYxMi4zMC4xLjE2NjEwMzU2MzYuMC4wLjA.. Accessed 20 Aug. 2022., No date on gravestone
  3. [S2241] "Oregon Secretary of State Archives Division: Early Oregonian Person Profile." Secure https://secure.sos.state.or.us/prs/profile.do?ancRecordNumber=50412. Accessed 20 Aug. 2022.
  4. [S2242] "Hilah Smith in the Oregon, U.S., Wills and Probate Records, 1849." 1963 https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/377061:9078?indiv=try&h&db. Accessed 20 Aug. 2022.

John Franklin ("J.F.") Kimsey

M, #1502, b. 1812, d. 1880
I can find no information about this person...

Parents

FatherJudge James Kimsey, Jr (b. 30 May 1784, d. 1862)
MotherHannah Jane McCracken (b. 26 April 1784, d. 25 June 1863)
Pedigree Link
Birth1812
Death1880At age ~68.
Last Edited20 August 2022

Achsa ("Axey") Kimsey

F, #1503, b. 10 February 1816, d. 13 July 1859

Parents

FatherJudge James Kimsey, Jr (b. 30 May 1784, d. 1862)
MotherHannah Jane McCracken (b. 26 April 1784, d. 25 June 1863)
Pedigree Link
Birth10 February 1816She is said to have been born in Bedford County, Tennessee or in Missouri. 1850 Census says Missouri.1,2
Death13 July 1859At age 43.1,2
MiscEarly Oregonian Search.2
Misc12 March 1844Married Ira Perry Smith in Holt County, Missouri, United States.2
Residence1850In Polk, Oregon Territory, United States.3
Last Edited20 August 2022

Citations

  1. [S2244] "Achsa Kimsey Smith (1816-1859)." Find a Grave Memorial https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/18049542/achsa-smith?_gl=1*jgkv5z*_ga*ODYwNTEzMDMwLjE2NTkyODMzMjU.*_ga_4QT8FMEX30*MTY2MTAzMjYxMi4zMC4xLjE2NjEwMzc3OTIuMC4wLjA.. Accessed 20 Aug. 2022., Tombstone visible but does not say the above so not sure what is going on...
  2. [S2245] "Oregon Secretary of State Archives Division: Early Oregonian Person Profile." Secure https://secure.sos.state.or.us/prs/profile.do?ancRecordNumber=50385. Accessed 20 Aug. 2022.
  3. [S2246] "Axy Smith in the 1850 United States Federal Census." Ancestry https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/8933792:8054?indiv=try&h&db. Accessed 20 Aug. 2022.

Edna Kimsey

F, #1504, b. 29 July 1819, d. 22 November 1874

Parents

FatherJudge James Kimsey, Jr (b. 30 May 1784, d. 1862)
MotherHannah Jane McCracken (b. 26 April 1784, d. 25 June 1863)
Pedigree Link
Birth29 July 1819In Howard County, Missouri Territory, United States.1
Death22 November 1874At age 55 in California, United States.1
BurialAt Sacramento City Cemetery in Sacramento, California, United States.1
Residence1850In Sacramento, California, United States.2
Residence1860In Elkhorn, San Joaquin, California, United States.3
Last Edited20 August 2022

Citations

  1. [S2249] "Edna Kimsey Benson Pemberton (1819-1874)." Find a Grave Memorial https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/31584594/edna-kimsey-pemberton?_gl=1*y2taal*_ga*ODYwNTEzMDMwLjE2NTkyODMzMjU.*_ga_4QT8FMEX30*MTY2MTAzMjYxMi4zMC4xLjE2NjEwMzkxNjAuMC4wLjA.. Accessed 20 Aug. 2022., Tombstone:
    Edna Benson Pemberton
    Born July 29, 1819
    Died Nov 22, 1874
  2. [S2248] "Edney Benson in the 1850 United States Federal Census." Ancestry https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/19672175:8054?indiv=try&h&db. Accessed 20 Aug. 2022.
  3. [S2247] "Edwa Benson in the 1860 United States Federal Census." Ancestry https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/2687698:7667?indiv=try&h&db. Accessed 20 Aug. 2022., Her husband died in 1859.

Duffield G. ("Duff") Kimsey

M, #1505, b. 6 November 1821, d. 5 June 1858

Parents

FatherJudge James Kimsey, Jr (b. 30 May 1784, d. 1862)
MotherHannah Jane McCracken (b. 26 April 1784, d. 25 June 1863)
Pedigree Link
Birth6 November 1821In Howard County, Missouri, United States.1
Death5 June 1858At age 36 in Marion, Marion, Oregon Territory, United States. Died of tuberculosis (TB) leaving wife and 5 children.2,1
BurialAt Anderson Lone Fir Cemetery in Sublimity, Marion, Oregon, United States.1
OccupationFarmer.3
MiscMarries Mandana Smith Bush.
PropertyEarliest Township and Range Public Land Survey, Oregon.4
Residence1850In Marion, Oregon Territory, United States.3
Residence1853In Marion County, Oregon Territory, United States.5
Last Edited20 August 2022

Citations

  1. [S2252] "Duff Kimsey (1821-1858)." Find a Grave Memorial https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/28903903/duff-kimsey?_gl=1*1b6b376*_ga*ODYwNTEzMDMwLjE2NTkyODMzMjU.*_ga_4QT8FMEX30*MTY2MTAzMjYxMi4zMC4xLjE2NjEwNDIxMzAuMC4wLjA.. Accessed 20 Aug. 2022., Tombstone has complete birth and death dates.
  2. [S2250] "Duff Kimsey in the Oregon, Biographical and Other Index Card File, 1700s." 1900s https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/206152:9056?indiv=try&h&db. Accessed 20 Aug. 2022.
  3. [S2254] "Duff Kinzy in the 1850 United States Federal Census." Ancestry https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/8931856:8054?indiv=try&h&db. Accessed 20 Aug. 2022.
  4. [S2253] "Duff Kimsey in the U.S., Indexed Early Land Ownership and Township Plats, 1785." 1898 https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/17121:2179?indiv=try&h&db. Accessed 20 Aug. 2022., Includes map.
  5. [S2251] "Duff Kimsey in the Oregon, U.S., Compiled Census Index, 1841." 1890 https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/26160479:3569?indiv=try&h&db. Accessed 20 Aug. 2022.

Edson Ross Kimsey

M, #1506, b. 20 April 1826, d. 4 April 1906

Parents

FatherJudge James Kimsey, Jr (b. 30 May 1784, d. 1862)
MotherHannah Jane McCracken (b. 26 April 1784, d. 25 June 1863)
Pedigree Link
Birth20 April 1826In Howard County, Missouri, United States.1,2,2
Death4 April 1906At age 79 in Stayton, Marion, Oregon, United States.1
Misc26 May 1852Married Walker, Malinda Ann Jane in Marion County, Oregon Territory, United States.2
Residence1880Lincoln in Marion, Oregon, United States.3
Last Edited20 August 2022

Citations

  1. [S2261] "Edson Ross Kimsey (1826-1906)." Find a Grave Memorial https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/38392092/edson-ross-kimsey. Accessed 20 Aug. 2022.
  2. [S2262] "Oregon Secretary of State Archives Division: Early Oregonian Person Profile." Secure https://secure.sos.state.or.us/prs/profile.do?ancRecordNumber=4599. Accessed 20 Aug. 2022.
  3. [S2263] "United States Census, 1880." Familysearch https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MNCG-SFX. Accessed 20 Aug. 2022.

Benjamin Franklin Kimsey

M, #1507, b. 14 December 1828, d. 4 July 1904

Parents

FatherJudge James Kimsey, Jr (b. 30 May 1784, d. 1862)
MotherHannah Jane McCracken (b. 26 April 1784, d. 25 June 1863)
Pedigree Link
Birth14 December 1828In Jackson Co., Missouri, United States.1
Death4 July 1904At age 75 in Linn Co., Oregon, United States.1
Last Edited20 August 2022

Citations

  1. [S2264] "Oregon Secretary of State Archives Division: Early Oregonian Person Profile." Secure https://secure.sos.state.or.us/prs/profile.do?ancRecordNumber=98813. Accessed 20 Aug. 2022.

Anson Benjamin Kimsey

M, #1508, b. 6 February 1824, d. 27 May 1893

Parents

FatherJudge James Kimsey, Jr (b. 30 May 1784, d. 1862)
MotherHannah Jane McCracken (b. 26 April 1784, d. 25 June 1863)
Pedigree Link
Birth6 February 1824In Howard County, Missouri, United States.1,2
Death27 May 1893At age 69 in Yamhill County, Oregon, United States.1,2
BurialAt Dallas Cemetery in Dallas, Polk, Oregon, United States.2
MiscEarly Oregonians Index.1
MiscMarried Elizabeth Beatty.1
OccupationFarmer.3
Residence1847In Yamill County, Oregon Country, United States. Tax list.4
Residence1849In Polk County, Oregon Territory, United States.5
Residence1860In Polk County, Oregon, United States.3
Residence1870In Dallas, Polk, Oregon, United States.6
Last Edited20 August 2022

Citations

  1. [S2255] "Anson Kimsey in the Oregon, U.S., Early Oregonians Index, 1800." 1860 https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/49348:60545?indiv=try&h&db. Accessed 20 Aug. 2022.
  2. [S2259] "Anson Kimsey (1824-1893)." Find a Grave Memorial https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/28420233/anson-kimsey?_gl=1*l6bvbu*_ga*ODYwNTEzMDMwLjE2NTkyODMzMjU.*_ga_4QT8FMEX30*MTY2MTAzMjYxMi4zMC4xLjE2NjEwNDM3NjIuMC4wLjA.. Accessed 20 Aug. 2022., Complete birth and death dates on the tombstone
  3. [S2256] "Anson Kimsey in the 1860 United States Federal Census." Ancestry https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/43925659:7667?indiv=try&h&db. Accessed 20 Aug. 2022.
  4. [S2258] "Anson Kimsey in the Oregon, Biographical and Other Index Card File, 1700s." 1900s https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/6987:9056?indiv=try&h&db. Accessed 20 Aug. 2022.
  5. [S2257] "Anson Kimsey in the Oregon, U.S., Compiled Census Index, 1841." 1890 https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/26189965:3569?indiv=try&h&db. Accessed 20 Aug. 2022.
  6. [S2260] "Anson Kimsey in the 1870 United States Federal Census." Ancestry https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/3538550:7163?indiv=try&h&db. Accessed 20 Aug. 2022.

Samuel K. Kimsey

M, #1509, b. 26 March 1806, d. 13 November 1875

Parents

FatherJudge James Kimsey, Jr (b. 30 May 1784, d. 1862)
MotherHannah Jane McCracken (b. 26 April 1784, d. 25 June 1863)
Pedigree Link
Birth26 March 1806In Alabama, United States. Also said to have been born in Tennessee... Birth date also 27 March 1806.1
Death13 November 1875At age 69 in Sibley, Jackson, Missouri, United States.1
Last Edited20 August 2022

Citations

  1. [S2243] "Samuel Kimsey (1806-1875)." Find a Grave Memorial https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/17631881/samuel-kimsey?_gl=1*ujy8ov*_ga*ODYwNTEzMDMwLjE2NTkyODMzMjU.*_ga_4QT8FMEX30*MTY2MTAzMjYxMi4zMC4xLjE2NjEwMzcwNTkuMC4wLjA.. Accessed 20 Aug. 2022.

Francis Marion Holman

M, #1510, b. 11 March 1818, d. 27 September 1865
Pedigree Link

Family: Mary Ann Crowley (b. 30 March 1823, d. 5 January 1895)

DaughterLouisa Holman (b. 1840, d. 1845)
SonEdmond Walter Holman (b. 1842, d. 1864)
DaughterPolly Jane ("Mary") Holman (b. 1844, d. 1846)
DaughterSusan Martha Holman (b. 1847, d. 1866)
DaughterFrances Marion Holman (b. 1850, d. 1857)
DaughterMary Ellen Holman (b. 1854, d. 1857)
DaughterElizabeth Monday Holman (b. 1856, d. 1861)
DaughterVirginia Louise Holman (b. 10 September 1859, d. 2 October 1934)
DaughterNancy Ella Holman (b. 18 October 1863, d. 20 April 1933)
Birth11 March 1818In Missouri, United States.1,2
Marriage25 August 1839In Buchanan, Missouri, United States.3
Death27 September 1865At age 47 in Sebastian County, Arkansas, United States.4,2
OccupationFarmer.1
Residence1850In District 38, Holt, Missouri, United States.5
Residence1860Spears Mill in Denton, Texas, United States.1
MilitarySecond Lieutenant 2nd Regiment, Arkansas Mounted Rifles, Confederate.6
Misc3 September 1865Started the trip north from Texas.7
Last Edited21 August 2022

Citations

  1. [S2268] "F M Holman in the 1860 United States Federal Census." Ancestry https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/35175552:7667?indiv=try&h&db. Accessed 21 Aug. 2022.
  2. [S2270] "Francis Marion Holman (1818-1865)." Find a Grave Memorial https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/41115446/francis-marion-holman. Accessed 21 Aug. 2022.
  3. [S1968] "Missouri Marriages, 1750." 1920 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V287-SF2. Accessed 7 May. 2022.
  4. [S1967] "1866 Letter from Susan Holman to her cousins in Oregon." Ancestry https://www.ancestry.com/mediaui-viewer/tree/18210667/person/18734333651/media/311cbd37-2727-4c9c-9e9d-3090f6e4a5d1?indiv=try&h&db. Accessed 7 May. 2022.
  5. [S2279] "Franklin Holeman in the 1850 United States Federal Census." Ancestry https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/3807030:8054?indiv=try&h&db. Accessed 21 Aug. 2022.
  6. [S2273] "Francis M. Holman in the U.S., Civil War Soldiers, 1861." 1865 https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/2451818:1138?indiv=try&h&db. Accessed 21 Aug. 2022.
  7. [S2267] "Francis Marion Holman." Ancestry https://www.ancestry.com/mediaui-viewer/tree/18210667/person/18733845867/media/fb60eb91-a80e-410f-88a0-853e44344f61?indiv=try&h&db. Accessed 21 Aug. 2022.

Louisa Holman

F, #1511, b. 1840, d. 1845

Parents

FatherFrancis Marion Holman (b. 11 March 1818, d. 27 September 1865)
MotherMary Ann Crowley (b. 30 March 1823, d. 5 January 1895)
Pedigree Link
Birth1840
Death1845At age ~5.
Last Edited21 August 2022

Edmond Walter Holman

M, #1512, b. 1842, d. 1864

Parents

FatherFrancis Marion Holman (b. 11 March 1818, d. 27 September 1865)
MotherMary Ann Crowley (b. 30 March 1823, d. 5 January 1895)
Pedigree Link
Birth1842
Death1864At age ~22.
Last Edited21 August 2022

Polly Jane ("Mary") Holman

F, #1513, b. 1844, d. 1846

Parents

FatherFrancis Marion Holman (b. 11 March 1818, d. 27 September 1865)
MotherMary Ann Crowley (b. 30 March 1823, d. 5 January 1895)
Pedigree Link
Birth1844
Death1846At age ~2.
Last Edited21 August 2022

Susan Martha Holman

F, #1514, b. 1847, d. 1866

Parents

FatherFrancis Marion Holman (b. 11 March 1818, d. 27 September 1865)
MotherMary Ann Crowley (b. 30 March 1823, d. 5 January 1895)
Pedigree Link
Birth1847In Missouri, United States.
Death1866At age ~19.
Residence1850In District 38, Holt, Missouri, United States.1
Residence1860Spears Mill in Denton, Texas, United States.2
Last Edited21 August 2022

Citations

  1. [S2276] "Susan Holeman in the 1850 United States Federal Census." Ancestry https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/3807033:8054?indiv=try&h&db. Accessed 21 Aug. 2022.
  2. [S2277] "Susan Holman in the 1860 United States Federal Census." Ancestry https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/35013608:7667?indiv=try&h&db. Accessed 21 Aug. 2022.

Frances Marion Holman

F, #1515, b. 1850, d. 1857

Parents

FatherFrancis Marion Holman (b. 11 March 1818, d. 27 September 1865)
MotherMary Ann Crowley (b. 30 March 1823, d. 5 January 1895)
Pedigree Link
Birth1850
Death1857At age ~7 in California, United States.1
Last Edited21 August 2022

Citations

  1. [S2267] "Francis Marion Holman." Ancestry https://www.ancestry.com/mediaui-viewer/tree/18210667/person/18733845867/media/fb60eb91-a80e-410f-88a0-853e44344f61?indiv=try&h&db. Accessed 21 Aug. 2022.

Mary Ellen Holman

F, #1516, b. 1854, d. 1857

Parents

FatherFrancis Marion Holman (b. 11 March 1818, d. 27 September 1865)
MotherMary Ann Crowley (b. 30 March 1823, d. 5 January 1895)
Pedigree Link
Birth1854
Death1857At age ~3 in California, United States.1
Last Edited21 August 2022

Citations

  1. [S2267] "Francis Marion Holman." Ancestry https://www.ancestry.com/mediaui-viewer/tree/18210667/person/18733845867/media/fb60eb91-a80e-410f-88a0-853e44344f61?indiv=try&h&db. Accessed 21 Aug. 2022.

Elizabeth Monday Holman

F, #1517, b. 1856, d. 1861

Parents

FatherFrancis Marion Holman (b. 11 March 1818, d. 27 September 1865)
MotherMary Ann Crowley (b. 30 March 1823, d. 5 January 1895)
Pedigree Link
Birth1856
Death1861At age ~5.
Residence1860In Denton, Texas, United States.1
Last Edited21 August 2022

Citations

  1. [S2268] "F M Holman in the 1860 United States Federal Census." Ancestry https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/35175552:7667?indiv=try&h&db. Accessed 21 Aug. 2022.

Virginia Louise Holman

F, #1518, b. 10 September 1859, d. 2 October 1934

Parents

FatherFrancis Marion Holman (b. 11 March 1818, d. 27 September 1865)
MotherMary Ann Crowley (b. 30 March 1823, d. 5 January 1895)
Pedigree Link
Birth10 September 1859In Santa Rosa, California, United States.1
Death2 October 1934At age 75 in Albany, Benton, Oregon, United States.1
MiscMarried John E Cyrus.1
Last Edited21 August 2022

Citations

  1. [S2272] "Virginia Louise Cyrus in the Oregon, U.S., State Deaths, 1864." 1968 https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/462529:61675?indiv=try&h&db. Accessed 21 Aug. 2022.

Nancy Ella Holman

F, #1519, b. 18 October 1863, d. 20 April 1933

Parents

FatherFrancis Marion Holman (b. 11 March 1818, d. 27 September 1865)
MotherMary Ann Crowley (b. 30 March 1823, d. 5 January 1895)
Pedigree Link
Birth18 October 1863In Denton, Texas, United States.1
Death20 April 1933At age 69 in Tacoma, Pierce, Washington, United States.1
MiscMarried. Riley Holt Curl 1855–1937 (m. 1884)
James Welch 1865–1928 (m. 1924)1
Last Edited21 August 2022

Citations

  1. [S2280] "Nancy Ella Holman Welch (1863-1933)." Find a Grave Memorial https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/101580521/nancy-ella-welch?_gl=1*pjurxl*_ga*ODYwNTEzMDMwLjE2NTkyODMzMjU.*_ga_4QT8FMEX30*MTY2MTExODk3Ni4zMi4xLjE2NjExMjU2OTAuMC4wLjA.. Accessed 21 Aug. 2022.

George W. Thomason

M, #1521, b. 1786, d. before May 1817
ReferencesAncestors
Pedigree Link
Birth1786
Marriage11 April 1812In Surry, North Carolina, United States.1,2,3
Deathbefore May 18173
Last Edited25 August 2022

Citations

  1. [S2286] "North Carolina, County Marriages, 1762." 1979 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QLMM-8JZC?from=lynx1UIV8&treeref=KHRM-JDD. Accessed 25 Aug. 2022.
  2. [S2287] "Nancy Spencer in the North Carolina, U.S., Index to Marriage Bonds, 1741." 1868 https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/1142290:4802?indiv=try&h&db. Accessed 25 Aug. 2022.
  3. [S5279] "Research on John Bull Spencer from Fran Fletcher." Ancestry https://www.ancestry.com/mediaui-viewer/collection/1030/tree/69026471/person/32192292877/media/2e3da827-5808-49ad-9183-d1a0a5f4f993?indiv=try&h&_phsrc=VFH587&db. Accessed 6 May. 2024., See PDF (transcription is not perfect):
    Spencer John b1760 by fmfco at aoldotcom.pdf

John ("Bull") Spencer

M, #1522, b. about 1759, d. about 1831
ReferencesAncestors

Parents

FatherJames Spencer (b. about 1735, d. 1780)
MotherEleanor Robertson (b. 1739, d. 1810)
Pedigree Link

Family: Ann ("Nancy") Fletcher (b. about 1763, d. before 1804)

SonJames Robertson Spencer (b. BY 1783, d. 6 January 1819)
SonWilliam Spencer (b. about 1783, d. 1808)
DaughterCarolina Susannah ("Suki") Spencer (b. about 1784, d. after 1860)
SonJoseph Spencer (b. about 1786, d. before 5 April 1837)
DaughterRachel Sarah ("Sally") Spencer (b. about 1788, d. after 1850)
DaughterNancy Spencer+ (b. about 1792, d. before 1860)
SonJohn Harvey Spencer (b. 1 April 1799, d. BY 1840)
Birthabout 1759In Charlotte Co., Virginia, British America.1,2
Marriage14 December 1781In North Carolina, British America.3,4
Marriage14 December 1821In Surry, North Carolina, United States.5
Deathabout 1831In Lawrence Co., Kentucky, United States. TAX LIST: (1831) Lawrence Co Kentucky, showed a John Spencer, as well as a James Spencer, John's son; and a Martin Spencer, James' son.
(1834) Lawrence Co., Kentucky, showed the John Spencer Estate; James Spencer, and Martin Spencer.1,2
MiscNickname. Athlene S. Sinkus stated that John was known by her grandfather, Elias Spencer, as John "Bull" Spencer, oldest brother of Thomas. John "Bull" was known to be a very large, strong man--thus his nickname.
MiscParents: Father James.6,6
MiscDNA Matches. 65 matches across 6 children.
This is down to 50 matches now...

Scott has 75 DNA matches across 6 children, including a Caroline S that is in my tree as Susannah
Scott still has 75.
Residence1771In Surry, North Carolina, British America.7
Military1778At Virginia State Regiment.8
Property1794RESIDENCE: (1794) In Surry Co., N.C., by at least 1794 when he bought 150 acres of land from Abraham VanWinkle on Grassy Creek adjoining "Martin." Sold this land on 27 Dec 1800 and later buys on south side of Yadkin River in Surry Co., NC. (Source - Henry Rigby, VIRGINIA SPENCERS, App. D, p. 3; and Frances Fletcher. in 1794 in Surry, North Carolina, British America.2
Residence1810In Surry Co., North Carolina, United States. Located on 1810 Census of Surry Co., North Carolina, with 1 male and 1 female 45 and over (himself & wife), 1 male and 3 females 16-26 Joseph, Sarah, Nancy, and Annie, Joseph's wife), and 1 male 10-16 (John, Jr) and 11 slaves.

It's rarely clear with these old census whether it's our person or not... There is an adult female here and we have Nancy Fletcher dying in 1804 and him not remarrying until 1821. Where does Nancy's death daate come from?9
Residence7 August 1820Capt Chappells District in Surry, North Carolina, United State.10
Residence1830In Lawrence, Kentucky, United States. (1830) Located on 1830 Census of Lawrence Co., Kentucky, listed John Spencer, age 70-80, female 40-50, 7 slaves. (Source - All Census Records from Henry Rigby's VIRGINIA SPENCERS, App. D, p.3-6)
new wife, Sally Andrew11
Last Edited23 June 2024

Citations

  1. [S2293] ""John Harvey Spencer : Family tree by Darron MCGEE (dkmcgee)." Geneanet https://gw.geneanet.org/dkmcgee?n=spencer&p=john%2Bharvey. Accessed 30 Aug. 2022.
  2. [S4683] "John Bull Spencer (abt.1759-abt.1831)." WikiTree FREE Family Tree https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Spencer-525. Accessed 23 Jan. 2024.
  3. [S2302] "Fletcher Family." Fmoran http://www.fmoran.com/fletch.html. Fletcher Family page. Accessed 1 Sep. 2022., The rest of the page (second generation, etc) in a PDF file.
  4. [S5279] "Research on John Bull Spencer from Fran Fletcher." Ancestry https://www.ancestry.com/mediaui-viewer/collection/1030/tree/69026471/person/32192292877/media/2e3da827-5808-49ad-9183-d1a0a5f4f993?indiv=try&h&_phsrc=VFH587&db. Accessed 6 May. 2024., See PDF (transcription is not perfect):
    Spencer John b1760 by fmfco at aoldotcom.pdf
  5. [S2294] "Sally Andrew in the North Carolina, U.S., Marriage Index, 1741." 2004 https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/2679470:8909?indiv=try&h&db. Accessed 30 Aug. 2022.
  6. [S2316] Early Spencers of Virginia by H. W. Rigby, Appendix D (1986). https://docplayer.net/94205620-Early-spencers-of-virginia-compiled-by-henry-w-rigby-2301-sharon-lane-charlotte-n-c.html. Accessed 9/1/2022.
  7. [S5658] "John Spencer in the North Carolina, U.S., Compiled Census and Census Substitutes Index, 1790." 1890 https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/17319560:3566?indiv=try&h&pid=1898422103&db. Accessed 23 Jun. 2024.
  8. [S2347] "Lineage Book - National Society of the Daughters of the American Revolution." Google Books https://www.google.com/books/edition/Lineage_Book_National_Society_of_the_Dau/62oZAQAAIAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22daughters%2Bof%2Bthe%2Bamerican%2Brevolution%22%2B%2284517%22&pg=RA1-PA382&printsec=frontcover. Accessed 6 Sep. 2022.
  9. [S5659] "John Spencer in the 1810 United States Federal Census." Ancestry https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/783368:7613?indiv=try&h&pid=1898422103&db. Accessed 23 Jun. 2024.
  10. [S5661] "John Spencer in the 1820 United States Federal Census." Ancestry https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/352440:7734?indiv=try&h&pid=32192292877&db. Accessed 23 Jun. 2024.
  11. [S5660] "John Spencer in the 1830 United States Federal Census." Ancestry https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/1871894:8058?indiv=try&h&pid=1898422103&db. Accessed 23 Jun. 2024., His age is not quite right... He did have another wife.

Ann ("Nancy") Fletcher

F, #1523, b. about 1763, d. before 1804
Some have her as Nancy Lydia. Is that her name or a conflation of two people? I have Ann "Nancy"...
ReferencesAncestors

Parents

FatherCaptain James Fletcher, Sr (b. about 1725, d. 1805)
MotherRachel Susannah Sebastian (b. 6 January 1729/30, d. after 1811)
Pedigree Link

Family: John ("Bull") Spencer (b. about 1759, d. about 1831)

SonJames Robertson Spencer (b. BY 1783, d. 6 January 1819)
SonWilliam Spencer (b. about 1783, d. 1808)
DaughterCarolina Susannah ("Suki") Spencer (b. about 1784, d. after 1860)
SonJoseph Spencer (b. about 1786, d. before 5 April 1837)
DaughterRachel Sarah ("Sally") Spencer (b. about 1788, d. after 1850)
DaughterNancy Spencer+ (b. about 1792, d. before 1860)
SonJohn Harvey Spencer (b. 1 April 1799, d. BY 1840)
Birthabout 17631
Marriage14 December 1781In North Carolina, British America.1,2
Deathbefore 1804In Wilkes County, North Carolina, United States.1
MiscParents. No real evidence for her father. It makes sense based on where we think she was born and where she died and who she married... But that's it.

The Sebastian line has to be considered dubious.

The will names no female children of James and Rachel. Explicitly says it does not name all heirs.

Some believe she was a daughter of William Spencer.

Trees seem to have James b1725 or Peter b1736
For heavens sake, Peter was born in Massachusetts and died in New Hampshire as did his wife, yet had Ann in Virginia! Someone even got into the SAR based on a "Lydia" Fletcher marrying a Spencer, and then a John Harvey Spencer! Service was in New Hampshire!

This is a Lydia Fletcher who married a John Spencer in New Hampshire and her family, with a similar child's name: John Harvey vs John Hervey

Other people try to find or invent a James to fit.

But here is a birth record for Lydia Fletcher in New Hampshire:
https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/213559:2204

Scott's DNA points to a Peter Fletcher with children Ruth, Ebenezer, James as well as Ann. 43 to Ann and only 3 to the others. But those three do have a reasonable DNA match.

We have a marriage of James Fletcher and Rachel Sebastian in 1745. But in his will his wife is Susannah. Most people believe Susannah was a second wife. So it's not clear that the last child, Nancy, is the daughter of Rachel Sebastian.2
MiscDNA Matches. May 3, 2024
ONLY two matches with a single sibling of Nancy Fletcher and those point to Daniel Routt and Martha Stigler rather than the Fletcher people! NB this is the Kimsey line and Routt and Stigler are in the Anderson line.

With Scott's small tree, it finds an Ann L Fletcher (1763-1815) with the same children as we have for our Ann "Nancy" and John Harvey "Bull" Spencer.
Common ancestors John Harvey Spencer and Ann Fletcher.
and some from Scott's father's side. 79 matches with Ann Nancy Lydia Fletcher.

The other Nancy and John Spencer appear to be a real family NOT in Virginia.

43 matches with Peter Fletcher. 40 with Ann L Fletcher and then Ruth and Ebenezer common ancestor Peter Fletcher and Ruth Adams, and a nonexistent James in that family... but connecting to Peter Fletcher and Ruth Adams, nonetheless... so these three matches are not overwhelming. The James Fletcher one has him marrying a Azubah Gale and dying in New York.
BUT WAIT! Someone did find a birth record for a James Fletcher son of Peter Fletcher and Ruth! BUT he was born 3 years before his first child was born in the south. 26 Dec 1778 in New Hamphsire.
https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/24468:2559?ssrc=pt&tid=113041720&pid=260111014351

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22 matches to siblings of Nancy Fletcher.
Scott Borgmier matches to 3 siblings, he has 35 matches to "Ann" b1763-1815, so "Ann" is the same person as Nancy. In one tree she is called Ann "Nancy" Lydia Fletcher (I think Lydia is bogus to get wrong parents!)
Last Edited24 June 2024

Citations

  1. [S2302] "Fletcher Family." Fmoran http://www.fmoran.com/fletch.html. Fletcher Family page. Accessed 1 Sep. 2022., The rest of the page (second generation, etc) in a PDF file.
  2. [S5279] "Research on John Bull Spencer from Fran Fletcher." Ancestry https://www.ancestry.com/mediaui-viewer/collection/1030/tree/69026471/person/32192292877/media/2e3da827-5808-49ad-9183-d1a0a5f4f993?indiv=try&h&_phsrc=VFH587&db. Accessed 6 May. 2024., See PDF (transcription is not perfect):
    Spencer John b1760 by fmfco at aoldotcom.pdf

Captain James Fletcher, Sr

M, #1524, b. about 1725, d. 1805
James Fletcher received a grant in March, 1779 for 400 acres on the south side of the Yadkin River near the Moravians lower line opposite an island below the mouth of Cub Creek. By 1787 he owned 2054 acres which included 1034 acres of "western land" and was the only Fletcher that appears on the tax list. James married Susannah (probably his second wife) about 1743. It is believed that James Fletcher was born about 1725 in Fauqueir County, Virginia.

James Fletcher was one of five delegates from Wilkes County elected to the Consititutional Convention in 1778 along with Col. Richard Allen, Col. William Lenoir, Captain John Brown and Captain John Herndon.

January 1792 - James Fletcher prays reimbursement for money advanced ($920) in January 1779 and March 1780 to Charles Gordon, Colonel of the Wilkes Regiment of Militia, for the purpose of securing supplies for drafts from the regiment to the aid of South Carolina. Referred to Committee, 7 January, 1792. The NCGJ, Volume II, No. 3, July, 1976. This request was denied and was outstanding when James died in 1805. James Fletcher's Will

From Jarvis family website, Fletcher family page:
http://www.fmoran.com/fletch.html.
ReferencesAncestors
Pedigree Link

Family: Rachel Susannah Sebastian (b. 6 January 1729/30, d. after 1811)

SonWilliam Fletcher (b. about 1744, d. 1805)
SonThomas Fletcher (b. about 1745, d. 22 July 1793)
SonBenjamin Fletcher (b. about 1754)
SonJames Fletcher, Jr. (b. 1758, d. 1845)
DaughterAnn ("Nancy") Fletcher+ (b. about 1763, d. before 1804)
Birthabout 1725In Probably England. A document about his son James' revolutionary war history states:
"James Fletcher was born in Culpeper County, Virginia, the son of James and Susannah Fletcher who came to the United States from Cumberland, England."
But this is almost certainly not true of his wife Susannah because we have records for her family.

Egremont, Cumberland, England, United Kingdom1,2
Marriage21 April 1745At Saint Pauls Parish in Stafford, Virginia, British America. May have been his second marriage.1,3,4
Death1805In Wilkes County, North Carolina, United States.5
MiscConstitutional Convention of 1778.1
MiscParents - no evidence. I see no evidence that Henry Fletcher and Dorothy Torr are his parents. Some people give a birth date of 5 SEP 1725, Cumberland, England so maybe something is known, but I don't know it. The other suspicious brother, Joseph, was also born in 1725 but he's also suspicious.

Some have his father Henry Fletcher and his mother Dorothy Hildreth.

There is a LOT of conjecture that he is descended from Fletchers in New England and even (dubious) DNA matches using Scott's small tree... Including SAR submissions. But this seems VERY improbable. See other notes on this.

Familysearch has John and Sarah Fletcher from Lancaster, England with James born 12 Sept 1725.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JW91-7HX
MiscDNA Matches - good. June 2024 Judy's DNA on Dessie
The two with James b 1768 are now with James and Rachel Susannah. 27 matches with Nancy.

May 2024
29 matches to Nancy Fletcher (27) and James Fletcher (2)
BUT the two with James have common ancestors Daniel Routt and James Stigler. BUT there must be some match to James... one of them is 35cM and the other 15cM. So there must be two matches.

Scott with the small tree has ancestors of Peter Fletcher and Ruth Adams as parents of Ann Fletcher. BUT these people live in Massachusetts and New Hampshire and all children EXCEPT Ann Nancy. Sure... Yet there is DNA matching...

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Scott Borgmier has 38 matches with 3 children of James Fletcher.
Aug 2023 Scott has 3 matches to 3 children of Peter Fletcher b1736. That is the Massachusetts- New Hampshire Fletcher. Related? The other matches are with Ann "Lydia". Look at our person in there and the first one in the list has the same parents as I do!
Jan 2024 using my tree. 46 matches, most to Nancy.
MiscSlaveholder.6
MiscFletcher Family. Some say his parents are Henry Fletcher Jr (1723-1785) and Dorothia Torr (1695-1742)who lived and died in England. Egremont, Cumberland, England.5,1
Residence1760In Wilkes County, North Carolina, British America.7
Property1779400 acres in 1779 in Yadkin River.1,8
Militarybetween 1779 and 1782Revolutionary War Vouchers.9
Residencebetween 1784 and 1787In Wilkes County, North Carolina, United States. By 1787 he owned 2054 acres which included 1034 acres of "western land" and was the only Fletcher that appears on the tax list.10,1
Residence1787Gordons District in Wilkes County, North Carolina, British America.11
Misc1788Hillsborough Convention in Hillsborough, North Carolina, United States. Captain James Fletcher was one of five delegates elected to the Consititutional Convention in 1778 along with Col. Richard Allen, Col. William Lenoir, Captain John Brown and Captain John Herndon.12,13,1,14
Residence1790In Wilkes, North Carolina, United States.15
Residence1800In Morgan, Wilkes, North Carolina, United States.6
WillApril 1805In Wilkes County, North Carolina, United States.3,16
Last Edited21 October 2024

Citations

  1. [S2302] "Fletcher Family." Fmoran http://www.fmoran.com/fletch.html. Fletcher Family page. Accessed 1 Sep. 2022., The rest of the page (second generation, etc) in a PDF file.
  2. [S5278] "Embracing Local History: Part 95 – REVOLUTIONARY WAR VETERAN JAMES FLETCHER." Kirksville Daily Express https://www.kirksvilledailyexpress.com/stories/embracing-local-history-part-95-revolutionary-war-veteran-james-fletcher,16692. Accessed 5 May. 2024., See PDF:
    Fletcher James b1758 REVOLUTIONARY WAR VETERAN JAMES FLETCHER Kirksville Daily Express.pdf
  3. [S2300] "James Fletcher Will, Wilkes Co., NC." Fmoran http://www.fmoran.com/fletchw.html. Accessed 1 Sep. 2022.
  4. [S5655] "James Fletcher in the Virginia, U.S., Select Marriages, 1785." 1940 https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/1033465:60214?indiv=try&h&pid=332254061960&db. Accessed 23 Jun. 2024.
  5. [S2305] "Fletcher - Results." FamilyTreeDNA https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/fletcher/about/results. Accessed 1 Sep. 2022., I can't find the Fletcher Family Research Bulletins. They are listed on familysearch.org but not searchable.

    More info:
    https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/fletcher/about
  6. [S2309] "James Fletcher in the 1800 United States Federal Census." Ancestry https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/356016:7590?indiv=try&h&db. Accessed 1 Sep. 2022.
  7. [S2307] https://www.miproperty.com/fletcher_files/John%20E%20Fletcher%20migration%20papers.pdf Accessed 0/1/2022.
  8. [S5652] "James Fletcher in the North Carolina, U.S., Land Grant Files, 1693." 1960 https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/195783:60621?indiv=try&h&pid=332254061960&db. Accessed 23 Jun. 2024., See image
  9. [S5651] "James Fletcher in the North Carolina Revolutionary Pay Vouchers, 1779." 1782 https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/15496:61947?indiv=try&h&pid=332254061960&db. Accessed 23 Jun. 2024.
  10. [S2312] "James Fletcher in the North Carolina, U.S., State Census, 1784." 1787 https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/13294:3005?indiv=try&h&pid=1205574582&db. Accessed 1 Sep. 2022.
  11. [S2311] "James Fletcher in the North Carolina, U.S., Compiled Census and Census Substitutes Index, 1790." 1890 https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/17444401:3566?indiv=try&h&pid=1205574582&db. Accessed 1 Sep. 2022.
  12. [S2306] "Hillsborough Convention." Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillsborough_Convention. Accessed 1 Sep. 2022.
  13. [S2308] "Documenting the American South: Colonial and State Records of North Carolina." Docsouth https://docsouth.unc.edu/csr/index.php/document/csr22-0001. Accessed 1 Sep. 2022.
  14. [S5653] "Hillsborough Convention." Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillsborough_Convention. Accessed 23 Jun. 2024., Names on this page, from Wilkes Co.
  15. [S2313] "James Fletcher in the 1790 United States Federal Census." Ancestry https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/204651:5058?indiv=try&h&db. Accessed 1 Sep. 2022.
  16. [S5656] "James Fletcher Sr in the North Carolina, U.S., Wills and Probate Records, 1665." 1998 https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/732391:9061?indiv=try&h&db. Accessed 23 Jun. 2024., Three pages:
    Fletcher James b1725 will.pdf

Rachel Susannah Sebastian

F, #1525, b. 6 January 1729/30, d. after 1811
There is a marriage record of a James Fletcher to Rachel Sebastian. In his will his wife is Susannah. This may be why some suggest there were two wives. Or she was Rachel Susannah Sebastian.
ReferencesAncestors

Parents

FatherIsaac Stephen Sebastian (b. 1705, d. 1735)
MotherRachel Spicer (b. 1707, d. after 10 September 1735)
Pedigree Link

Family: Captain James Fletcher, Sr, (b. about 1725, d. 1805)

SonWilliam Fletcher (b. about 1744, d. 1805)
SonThomas Fletcher (b. about 1745, d. 22 July 1793)
SonBenjamin Fletcher (b. about 1754)
SonJames Fletcher, Jr. (b. 1758, d. 1845)
DaughterAnn ("Nancy") Fletcher+ (b. about 1763, d. before 1804)
Birth6 January 1729/30In St. Paul's Parish, Stafford, Virginia, British America. I've seen 1730 and 6 Jan 1730 but no evidence.
Marriage21 April 1745At Saint Pauls Parish in Stafford, Virginia, British America. May have been his second marriage.1,2,3
Marriage21 February 1807In Wilkes County, North Carolina, United States.
Deathafter 1811In North Carolina, United States.1
MiscDNA Matches. May 1, 2024
2 matches with Nancy. 2 matches with James Fletcher, BUT their common ancestors are with Daniel Routt and Martha Stigler. Quite high amounts, so probably multiple DNA connections.

2024
11 matches with Nancy Fletcher, so it doesn't really confirm Rachel Sebastian. BUT see Scott. Still doesn't confirm her name...

Scott's matches using my tree are 46 with Rachel Sebastian, 42 with Nancy Fletcher, 1 with Thomas, 4 with James
Common ancestor is James Fletcher and Rachel Sebastian

2023
Scott Borgmier has 38 matches with 3 children of Rachel (Sebastian) Fletcher. But that went away in the latest incarnation!
MiscParents. At Court held for Stafford County 11th July 1750 RACHAEL FLETCHER late RACHAEL SEBASTIAN Admx of Isaac Sebastian deced produced & made oath to above account .. admitted to record tobo is valued at 12/6 pecnt.4
Residence1800In Morgan, Wilkes, North Carolina, United States.5
Last Edited6 May 2024

Citations

  1. [S2302] "Fletcher Family." Fmoran http://www.fmoran.com/fletch.html. Fletcher Family page. Accessed 1 Sep. 2022., The rest of the page (second generation, etc) in a PDF file.
  2. [S2300] "James Fletcher Will, Wilkes Co., NC." Fmoran http://www.fmoran.com/fletchw.html. Accessed 1 Sep. 2022.
  3. [S5655] "James Fletcher in the Virginia, U.S., Select Marriages, 1785." 1940 https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/1033465:60214?indiv=try&h&pid=332254061960&db. Accessed 23 Jun. 2024.
  4. [S5269] "Isaac Sebastian b. 1705 St. Paul's Parish, Stafford County, Virginia d. 13 May 1735 Stafford County, Virginia." inventory: Early Colonial Settlers of Southern Maryland and Virginia's Northern Neck Counties https://www.colonial-settlers-md-va.us/getperson.php?personID=I40176&tree=Tree1&sitever=standard. Accessed 2 May. 2024., See PDF:
    Sebastian Isaac b. 1705 - Early Colonial Settlers.pdf
  5. [S2309] "James Fletcher in the 1800 United States Federal Census." Ancestry https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/356016:7590?indiv=try&h&db. Accessed 1 Sep. 2022.