Carolina Susannah ("Suki") Spencer
F, #1551, b. about 1784, d. after 1860
Parents
| Birth | about 1784 | In North Carolina, British America. |
| Death | after 1860 | In Surry, North Carolina, United States.1,1 |
| Misc | 1809 | Married Philip Phlilips in Surry, North Carolina, United States.2,1 |
Citations
- [S5279] "Research on John Bull Spencer from Fran Fletcher." Ancestry https://www.ancestry.com/mediaui-viewer/collection/1030/tree/69026471/person/32192292877/media/2e3da827-5808-49ad-9183-d1a0a5f4f993?indiv=try&h&_phsrc=VFH587&db. Accessed 6 May. 2024., See PDF (transcription is not perfect):
Spencer John b1760 by fmfco at aoldotcom.pdf
- [S4069] "Sussanah Spencer in the North Carolina, U.S., Marriage Records, 1741." 2011 https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/13768552:60548?indiv=try&h&pid=242318047799&db. Accessed 11 Jul. 2023.
James Robertson Spencer
M, #1553, b. BY 1783, d. 6 January 1819
Parents
| Birth | BY 1783 | In North Carolina, United States.1 |
| Death | 6 January 1819 | In Bloomington twp, Buchanan County, Missouri, United States.1 |
| Misc | 19 November 1807 | Sarah Lewis Martin in Surry County, North Carolina, United States. |
Citations
- [S5279] "Research on John Bull Spencer from Fran Fletcher." Ancestry https://www.ancestry.com/mediaui-viewer/collection/1030/tree/69026471/person/32192292877/media/2e3da827-5808-49ad-9183-d1a0a5f4f993?indiv=try&h&_phsrc=VFH587&db. Accessed 6 May. 2024., See PDF (transcription is not perfect):
Spencer John b1760 by fmfco at aoldotcom.pdf
John Harvey Spencer
M, #1555, b. 1 April 1799, d. BY 1840
I believe John Harvey belongs to John Spencer whose wife is Lydia... BUT WAIT, Our Ann is called Nancy Lydia.
Also, I've seen his name as John Henry Spencer.
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Comment on an online thread (it got no answer):
I am supposedly a descendant of 2.vii John Spencer.I have confirmed via the NC Marriage Index his marriage to Martha Gray on 22 Aug. 1827 in Surry County, NC.John vanishes from the NC census records in 1840 where Martha is listed as head of household with 8 children.So I would like to know your source for John moving to Kentucky and marrying Nancy Ann Crowley in 1834.
Parents
| Birth | 1 April 1799 | In Surry Co., North Carolina, United States. Uncertain1 |
| Marriage | 22 August 1827 | In Surry, North Carolina, United States.2,1 |
| Marriage | 9 November 1834 | In Lawrence Co., Kentucky, United States. |
| Death | BY 1840 | In Surry Co., North Carolina, United States. I also see died d. 20 January 1890, Clay County, MO1 |
Citations
- [S5279] "Research on John Bull Spencer from Fran Fletcher." Ancestry https://www.ancestry.com/mediaui-viewer/collection/1030/tree/69026471/person/32192292877/media/2e3da827-5808-49ad-9183-d1a0a5f4f993?indiv=try&h&_phsrc=VFH587&db. Accessed 6 May. 2024., See PDF (transcription is not perfect):
Spencer John b1760 by fmfco at aoldotcom.pdf - [S5274] "John Spencer in the North Carolina, U.S., Marriage Records, 1741." 2011 https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/6900272:60548?indiv=try&h&pid=110006058794&db. Accessed 3 May. 2024.
James Robertson Spencer
M, #1558, b. about 1761, d. 11 March 1851
Parents
| Birth | about 1761 | In Charlotte Co., Virginia, British America.1 |
| Death | 11 March 1851 | In Crawford, Harrison, Indiana, United States.2 |
| Misc | | DNA Matches - too many... 19 DNA matches with 3 children. 6/22/2024 23 matches. And only 11 from William W and John Bull who I think we are descended from... On the other hand, we did not end up in Indiana... |
| Occupation | | Farmer.1 |
| Misc | 21 December 1786 | Married Lucinda "Lucy" Weatherford.2 |
| Residence | 1850 | In Whiskey Run, Crawford, Indiana, United States.1 |
Citations
- [S5645] "James R Spencer in the 1850 United States Federal Census." Ancestry https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/1735319:8054?indiv=try&h&pid=350009465067&db. Accessed 22 Jun. 2024.
- [S5646] "James R Spencer in the Family Data Collection." Individual Records https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/5098991:4725?indiv=try&h&pid=350009465067&db. Accessed 22 Jun. 2024.
Rebecca Spencer
F, #1559, b. about 1763, d. 1822
Parents
| Birth | about 1763 | In Charlotte Co., British America. |
| Death | 1822 | |
| Misc | 5 July 1782 | Married Robert Hannah in Charlotte, Charlotte, Virginia, United States. |
William W Spencer
M, #1560, b. between 1765 and 1770, d. after 1830
Parents
| Birth | between 1765 and 1770 | In Charlotte Co., Virginia, British America. |
| Marriage | 5 January 1801 | In Charlotte, Virginia, United States. William Spencer has a brother named Charles Spencer, who was listed as surety on marriage bond.1,2 |
| Death | after 1830 | |
| Misc | | DNA Matches - OK. 54 DNA matches
50 with our William , 2 with Rachel, 2 with a William born in 1804 who married a Sarah Hatcher. The 2 under William only link to William W. and they are related to each other closely and are called half. The two for Rachel match with both William W and Judith Lowell. So there may be another wife...
May 2024 on Scott's small tree:
65 matches with William W Spencer b1770. 66 with William W.
Rachel 3 with common ancestor William W Spencer and Judith Margaret Lowell.
Mary is called half and 3 William W only.
William H called half and 4 with William W only. |
| Misc | | Problems. How many places can he have lived? Hopping around not in the usual directions... 1810 and 1830 residences in Spartanburg, SC. someone says he was in Surry County North Carolina in 1810. Too many Spencers! |
| Property | 12 May 1819 | Property purchase on 12 May 1819. |
| Residence | 1850 | In Charlotte, Charlotte, Virginia, United States. This may not be our William Spencer3 |
Citations
- [S4697] "William Spencer in the Virginia, U.S., Compiled Marriages, 1740." 1850 https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/164886:3723?indiv=try&h&pid=6136093581&db. Accessed 24 Jan. 2024.
- [S5639] "Entry for Wm Spencer, 'Virginia, County Marriage Records, 1771." 1989" https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:2:4194-6D45. Accessed 22 Jun. 2024., See image of page. Surety on bond Charles Spencer
- [S4696] "1850 U.S. Federal Census - Slave Schedules." Ancestry.com https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/2660732:8055?indiv=try&h&pid=6136093581&db. Accessed 24 Jan. 2024.
Thomas Spencer
M, #1561, b. 1 July 1767, d. January 1854
Parents
| Birth | 1 July 1767 | In Louisa, Virginia, British America.1 |
| Death | January 1854 | At age 86 in Lincoln, Tennessee, United States. |
| Misc | | Possible DNA matches. Note, this family seems to have two children named Thomas neither of which died young. The DNA match on this one is called half. Remember, we have Spencer ancestors twice...
Thomas b 1676 does not appear in the list of matches for Eleanor Robertson |
| Occupation | | Farmer.1 |
| Misc | | Married Frances Martha Leath and Mary Ann Mitchell. |
| Residence | 1810 | In Hyde, North Carolina, United States.2 |
| Residence | 1850 | In Lincoln, Tennessee, United States.1 |
Citations
- [S5642] "Thomas Spencer in the 1850 United States Federal Census." Ancestry https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/6334471:8054?indiv=try&h&pid=19788152061&db. Accessed 22 Jun. 2024.
- [S5643] "Thomas Spencer in the 1810 United States Federal Census." Ancestry https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/380083:7613?indiv=try&h&pid=19788152061&db. Accessed 22 Jun. 2024.
Charles Spencer
M, #1562, b. 1772, d. 27 July 1859
Parents
| Birth | 1772 | In Amelia, Virginia, British America.1,2 |
| Death | 27 July 1859 | At age ~87 in Charlotte County, Virginia, United States.1 |
| Occupation | | Planter.1,2 |
| Misc | | Father James Spencer.1 |
| Misc | | DNA Matches. 3 DNA matches |
| Misc | 4 December 1810 | Wife: Mary Puckett in Charlotte, Charlotte, Virginia, United States. |
| Residence | 1850 | In Charlotte, Charlotte, Virginia, United States.2 |
Citations
- [S2298] "Virginia Deaths and Burials, 1853." 1912 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X5Y2-7SZ. Accessed 30 Aug. 2022.
- [S5644] "Charles Spencer in the 1850 United States Federal Census." Ancestry https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/14953933:8054?indiv=try&h&pid=160164792357&db. Accessed 22 Jun. 2024.
Thomas Robert Spencer
M, #1563, b. 9 November 1774, d. 1839
Parents
| Birth | 9 November 1774 | In Charlotte, Virginia, British America. |
| Death | 1839 | At age ~65 in Lawrence, Kentucky, United States. |
| Misc | | DNA Matches. 2 DNA Matches |
| Misc | 22 December 1801 | Married Mary Polly Spaulding 1764-1843 in Charlotte, Virginia, British America. |
Joseph Spencer
M, #1564, b. 1776, d. 1819
Parents
| Birth | 1776 | |
| Death | 1819 | At age ~43. |
| Last Edited | 30 August 2022 |
Eleanor Spencer
F, #1566, b. 1779
Parents
| Last Edited | 30 August 2022 |
Robert Spencer
M, #1568, b. 1781
Parents
| Last Edited | 30 August 2022 |
William Fletcher
M, #1569, b. about 1744, d. 1805
Early Virginia Records for William Fletcher:
1759 - Fauquier County formed from Prince William County.
1759 - William Fletcher is listed as head of household for Personal Property and Poll Tax in Fauquier
Co. VA. James Fletcher, taxed in 1759, with a William Fletcher head of household, by Thomas
Marshall in the Southern District. Ref. Minute Book 3 Page 2, 1764.
1764 - Spencer Fletcher born before August 24, 1767.
1767 - August 24. 200 Acres leased to William Fletcher, Elizabeth his wife, and Spencer his son.
(This property is in the Manor of Leeds, Farquier Co. VA.(Fauquier Co.) Deed Book, Book 3, Page 122.
(It was customary to list three lives on a Lease in case of death of one of the leasees.)
1774 - Unnamed possible 2nd son of Willliam and Elizabeth, born in mid-summer of this year.
1778-1780 - James F. Fletcher, possible 3rd son of Willliam and Elizabeth, likely born in this period.
1779 - 1780 Efferella Fletcher, daughter of William and Elizabeth, likely born during this time.
Parents
| Misc | 1765 | Married Elizabeth. |
| Last Edited | 11 August 2023 |
Thomas Fletcher
M, #1570, b. about 1745, d. 22 July 1793
Parents
| Birth | about 1745 | |
| Death | 22 July 1793 | Probate in Fauquier County, Virginia, United States.1 |
Citations
- [S2302] "Fletcher Family." Fmoran http://www.fmoran.com/fletch.html. Fletcher Family page. Accessed 1 Sep. 2022., The rest of the page (second generation, etc) in a PDF file.
- [S4209] "Thomas Fletcher in the North Carolina, U.S., Index to Marriage Bonds, 1741." 1868 https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/41328:4802?indiv=try&h&pid=332468387717&db. Accessed 11 Aug. 2023.
Benjamin Fletcher
M, #1571, b. about 1754
Parents
| Misc | | Married 1) unknown; 2) Mary McKenney in 1797.1 |
| Last Edited | 11 August 2023 |
Citations
- [S2302] "Fletcher Family." Fmoran http://www.fmoran.com/fletch.html. Fletcher Family page. Accessed 1 Sep. 2022., The rest of the page (second generation, etc) in a PDF file.
James Fletcher, Jr.
M, #1572, b. 1758, d. 1845
James Fletcher, Jr. was born in 1758 in Culpeper County, Virginia, the son of James and Susannah Fletcher who reportedly came to the United States from Cumberland, England. His parents are said to have died in North Carolina. James Fletcher married Mary Smoot.
James Fletcher was a soldier in the Revolutionary War from Virginia. He is listed on the U. S. Pension Roll of 1835 as a private from Virginia. By at least 1835, James Fletcher, Jr. and his family had moved to Missouri.
The James Fletcher family was later known to be living in what is now Adair County, Missouri, on a farm near what was later the town of Yarrow, Missouri, not far from the Chariton River. In the 1840 census of Goshen Township, Macon County, Missouri, James Fletcher is listed as age 83, a veteran of the Revolutionary War.
- findagrave.
Parents
| Birth | 1758 | In Culpeper County, Virginia, British America. Or Fauqueir County, Virginia1,2 |
| Marriage | 1775 | |
| Death | 1845 | At age ~87 in Adair County, Missouri, United States.1 |
| Misc | | DNA Matches. 2 matches, ony child with a match... Both go to Daniel James Routt and Martha Stigler as common ancstors. But of course that does not mean they aren't ALSO connected this way... |
| Military | 5 October 1777 | Revolutionary War Soldier in Fauquier County, Virginia, British America.3 |
Citations
- [S4210] Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/142471834/james-fletcher: accessed 11 August 2023), memorial page for James Fletcher Jr. (1758–1845), Find a Grave Memorial ID 142471834, citing Fletcher Farm Cemetery, Yarrow, Adair County, Missouri, USA; Maintained by Blytha & Donald Ellis (contributor 47068335).
- [S5269] "Isaac Sebastian b. 1705 St. Paul's Parish, Stafford County, Virginia d. 13 May 1735 Stafford County, Virginia." inventory: Early Colonial Settlers of Southern Maryland and Virginia's Northern Neck Counties https://www.colonial-settlers-md-va.us/getperson.php?personID=I40176&tree=Tree1&sitever=standard. Accessed 2 May. 2024., See PDF:
Sebastian Isaac b. 1705 - Early Colonial Settlers.pdf - [S5278] "Embracing Local History: Part 95 – REVOLUTIONARY WAR VETERAN JAMES FLETCHER." Kirksville Daily Express https://www.kirksvilledailyexpress.com/stories/embracing-local-history-part-95-revolutionary-war-veteran-james-fletcher,16692. Accessed 5 May. 2024., See PDF:
Fletcher James b1758 REVOLUTIONARY WAR VETERAN JAMES FLETCHER Kirksville Daily Express.pdf
Isaac Stephen Sebastian
M, #1573, b. 1705, d. 1735
Parents
| Birth | 1705 | At St. Paul's Parish in Stafford County, Virginia, British America.1,2 |
| Marriage | 11 May 1727 | At Saint Pauls Parish in King George County, Virginia, British America.3,4,5,6,7 |
| Death | 1735 | At age ~30 in Stafford County, Virginia, British America. I see a death date of February 07, 17358,2,6 |
| Misc | | Parents. Probable parents:
Stephen Sebastian 1680-1735)
Elizabeth Stickle (1680-1734)
!26 Sep 1689: William Fitzhugh leased 50 acres farm ground in Stafford Co, VA, to Stephen Sebastian which once was owned by James Ashton. The lease names Stephen's wife as Elizabeth and a son named Stephen.
Others like William Sebastian (1682-1751)
and various possible wives... One link:
https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/38706642/person/19435525513/facts1,2 |
| Misc | | DNA Matches -good. 6/7/2024 Judy's DNA on Dessie Anderson
2 matches on sibling Mary Ann - 2 both parents
6/7/2024 Scott's DNA on Dessie Anderson
2 matches on sibling Stephen - both parents
1 match on Mary Ann - both parents |
| Probate | 10 September 1735 | In Stafford County, Virginia, British America. 1748-1767 Stafford County, Virginia Will Book O; [Antient Press];
p. 111 1750 The Estate of ISAAC SEBASTIAN deced
Dr 1734 -- pd Mr. THOS. VIVION 1736 paid ROBT. KING by order of Capt. Fowke 1735 pd Capt. PHIL. ALEXANDER 1740 pd SARAH SKIDMORE ½ barl. corn pd WILL. SEBASTIAN, JOHN ALLENTHORP clks fees at Suit; BEN SEBASTIAN; paid one Parish levey; paid HOWARD HUOIRS for work; paid JOHN GRIGSBY, JOHN PETTYCORD, JOHN IBJHEFOR; rum account; pd JOHN CLANTON for Indian corn; pd Ben Sebastian a Lawyers fees; pd Colo. Fitzhugh as pr rest from Mr. WM. FITZHUGH; pd ROBERT SUDDUTH for Constables fees .. (items valued in Pounds not totalled).
Cr by recd of HENRY SMITH; Ben Sebastian, BEN SPIDER -- Tobacco not totalled
Errors Excepted pr RACILL FLETCHER Admx of the goods and chattels of Isaac Sebastian deced
At Court held for Stafford County 11th July 1750 RACHAEL FLETCHER late RACHAEL SEBASTIAN Admx of Isaac Sebastian deced produced & made oath to above account .. admitted to record tobo is valued at 12/6 pecnt. |
Citations
- [S5260] "STEVEN SEBASTIAN b. 1652 England d. Abt 1680 Stafford Co., VA: Ham/m Family History." Hammroots https://hammroots.com/getperson.php?personID=I205095&tree=Main. Accessed 2 May. 2024.
- [S5269] "Isaac Sebastian b. 1705 St. Paul's Parish, Stafford County, Virginia d. 13 May 1735 Stafford County, Virginia." inventory: Early Colonial Settlers of Southern Maryland and Virginia's Northern Neck Counties https://www.colonial-settlers-md-va.us/getperson.php?personID=I40176&tree=Tree1&sitever=standard. Accessed 2 May. 2024., See PDF:
Sebastian Isaac b. 1705 - Early Colonial Settlers.pdf - [S2304] "Virginia Marriages, 1785." 1940 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XR29-KWT?from=lynx1UIV8&treeref=LV7R-J6K. Accessed 1 Sep. 2022.
- [S3986] "King George County, Virginia 1720-1990." Ancestry.com https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/56781:49049?indiv=try&h&db. Accessed 21 Jun. 2023., Table of marriages, image available
- [S5270] "RACHEL SPICER b. Bef 1711 Stafford Co., VA d. Aft 10 Sep 1735 Stafford Co., VA: Ham/m Family History." Hammroots https://hammroots.com/getperson.php?personID=I205121&tree=Main. Accessed 2 May. 2024.
- [S5271] "Rachel Spicer b. Bef 1711 Stafford County, Virginia d. Aft 10 Sep 1735 Stafford County, Virginia: Early Colonial Settlers of Southern Maryland and Virginia's Northern Neck Counties." Colonial-settlers-md-va https://www.colonial-settlers-md-va.us/getperson.php?personID=I86848&tree=Tree1. Accessed 2 May. 2024., See PDF:
Spicer Rachel b. Bef 1711 Stafford County, Virginia - Early Colonial Settlers.pdf
Family 2 in this and Hamm's reports are her daughter marrying a James Fletcher. - [S5555] "Isaac Sebastian in the Virginia, U.S., Compiled Marriages, 1740." 1850 https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/51751:3723?indiv=try&h&pid=170169788995&db. Accessed 9 Jun. 2024.
- [S5258] "ISAAC SEBASTIAN b. 1705 St. Paul's Parish, Stafford Co., VA d. Bef 13 May 1735 Stafford Co., VA: Ham/m Family History." Hammroots https://hammroots.com/getperson.php?personID=I205101&tree=Main. Accessed 2 May. 2024.
Rachel Spicer
F, #1574, b. 1707, d. after 10 September 1735
Parents
| Birth | 1707 | In Stafford County, Virginia, British America.1,2 |
| Marriage | 11 May 1727 | At Saint Pauls Parish in King George County, Virginia, British America.3,4,1,2,5 |
| Marriage | 21 April 1745 | In St Paul's Parish, Stafford, Virginia, British America. The same date is used for her daughter's marriage to a James Fletcher b1725 as is used for her marriage to a James Fletcher b1711. I doubt that. Plus her daughter may have had a child before 21 Apr 1745.6,7 |
| Death | after 10 September 1735 | In Stafford County, Virginia, British America.1,2 |
| Misc | | Parents.
No direct evidence of who her parents are. Many trees have her born around the time she got married (which is documented). Many trees also confuse Spicer family members in Virginia with records from Spicer family members in Connecticut, marriages in England, etc. |
| Misc | | Another marriage? The Hamm family Tree and Early Colonial Settlers has her marrying a James Fletcher (b bef 1711 -) pm 21 April 1745. That is surely her daughter Rachel Sebastian marrying a James Fletcher.
James Fletcher (1704-1751) children:
James Fletcher (1746-
Ann Fletcher (1747-1790)
Elizabeth Fletcher (1751-)
Unfortunately, it does not seem to be known who this James Fletcher's parents are. |
| Misc | | DNA Matches - good. 10/15/2024 DNA on Sarah Ellen Spencer
Scott - 1 on Mary Ann, 1 on Stephen, ancestry not responding on CA
Judy - 3 on Mary Ann, ancestry not responding
6/7/2024 Judy's DNA on Dessie Anderson
4 matches on siblings
Mary Ann 2 on both parents
Ann Fletcher? no CE and James Kimsey and Mary Elizabeth Crowley
I can't figure out who this is. The trees are a mess.
6/10/2024 Scott's DNA on Dessie Anderson
12 matches
Stephen 1732-1784 called half CA Isaac Sebastian and Rebecca Rachel Spicer. |
| Last Edited | 15 October 2024 |
Citations
- [S5270] "RACHEL SPICER b. Bef 1711 Stafford Co., VA d. Aft 10 Sep 1735 Stafford Co., VA: Ham/m Family History." Hammroots https://hammroots.com/getperson.php?personID=I205121&tree=Main. Accessed 2 May. 2024.
- [S5271] "Rachel Spicer b. Bef 1711 Stafford County, Virginia d. Aft 10 Sep 1735 Stafford County, Virginia: Early Colonial Settlers of Southern Maryland and Virginia's Northern Neck Counties." Colonial-settlers-md-va https://www.colonial-settlers-md-va.us/getperson.php?personID=I86848&tree=Tree1. Accessed 2 May. 2024., See PDF:
Spicer Rachel b. Bef 1711 Stafford County, Virginia - Early Colonial Settlers.pdf
Family 2 in this and Hamm's reports are her daughter marrying a James Fletcher. - [S2304] "Virginia Marriages, 1785." 1940 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XR29-KWT?from=lynx1UIV8&treeref=LV7R-J6K. Accessed 1 Sep. 2022.
- [S3986] "King George County, Virginia 1720-1990." Ancestry.com https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/56781:49049?indiv=try&h&db. Accessed 21 Jun. 2023., Table of marriages, image available
- [S5555] "Isaac Sebastian in the Virginia, U.S., Compiled Marriages, 1740." 1850 https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/51751:3723?indiv=try&h&pid=170169788995&db. Accessed 9 Jun. 2024.
- [S2301] "James Fletcher in the Virginia, U.S., Compiled Marriages, 1660." 1800 https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/21421:3002?indiv=try&h&db. Accessed 1 Sep. 2022.
- [S5649] "James Fletcher b. Bef 1711 Overwharton Parish, Stafford County, Virginia Prince William County, Virginia: Early Colonial Settlers of Southern Maryland and Virginia's Northern Neck Counties." Colonial-settlers-md-va https://www.colonial-settlers-md-va.us/getperson.php?personID=I40206&tree=Tree1. Accessed 22 Jun. 2024., See PDF for wives, will etc:
Fletcher James b. Bef 1711 - Virginia Early Colonial Settlers.pdf