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Waitsell ("Wattie") Ratliff

M, #2901, b. 1864, d. 1902

Parents

FatherWilliam M. Ratliff (b. 1814, d. between 1866 and 1870)
MotherCaroline Ward (b. 1826, d. 1890)
Pedigree Link
Birth1864
Death1902At age ~38.
Last Edited10 July 2023

William Robert Ratliff

M, #2902, b. 31 March 1731, d. about 6 July 1825
William A or William R?

Parents

FatherRobert Anthony Ratliff (b. 15 September 1696, d. August 1738)
MotherMary Alice Touchstone (b. 1695, d. 24 June 1741)
Pedigree Link
Birth31 March 1731In Augusta, Virginia, British America.1,2
Deathabout 6 July 1825In Pike County, Kentucky, United States. I also have seen About 18211,2
MiscSame person as Reuben "Old William"?
MilitarySAR Application.3
MiscMarriages: Susannah Thomas. Married Susannah Thomas Curtis
and maybe another Susannah or she married a lot of different people?1,2
Last Edited13 August 2024

Citations

  1. [S6243] "William Ratliff (1731-abt.1825)." WikiTree FREE Family Tree https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Ratliff-400. Accessed 13 Aug. 2024., This may be William son of Robert Ratliff and Mary Touchstone. This would be the same William as on page 8 of The William Ratcliff/Ratliff Family Of Maryland And Anson County, North Carolina.
  2. [S6244] Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/44911098/william-ratcliff: accessed August 13, 2024), memorial page for William Ratcliff (31 Mar 1731–1825), Find a Grave Memorial ID 44911098; Burial Details Unknown; Maintained by Della Lilly (contributor 46905597).
  3. [S4519] "Robert Ratliff in the U.S., Sons of the American Revolution Membership Applications, 1889." 1970 https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/847933:2204?indiv=try&h&pid=392337238196&db. Accessed 7 Oct. 2023.

Silas E Ratliff

M, #2903, b. about 1730, d. 1811
Nothing much seems to be known about their children.

Parents

FatherRobert Anthony Ratliff (b. 15 September 1696, d. August 1738)
MotherMary Alice Touchstone (b. 1695, d. 24 June 1741)
Pedigree Link

Family: Elizabeth McAllister (b. 1730, d. 1780)

DaughterHannah Ratliff (b. between 1750 and 1760, d. 1797)
DaughterUsley Ratliff (b. between 1752 and 1780)
DaughterFrances ("Fanny") Ratliff (b. 1755, d. 1810)
SonJohn Ratliff (b. 1760)
SonRichard Ratliff (b. 1763, d. 1861)
SonSilas Ratliff (b. 1765, d. 1850 or 1814)
DaughterLydia Ratliff (b. 1766, d. 1815)
DaughterPhoebe Ratliff (b. 1768, d. 1825)
Birthabout 17301
Marriage1
Death1811Two dates suggested 1811 and 18491
Will27 February 1811In Patrick Co, Virginia, United States.2
Last Edited11 September 2024

Citations

  1. [S6532] "Silas Ratliff (1730-abt.1811)." WikiTree FREE Family Tree https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Ratliff-385. Accessed 11 Sep. 2024., Sources unidentifiable.
  2. [S4510] "IMG_7857.PNG." Ancestry https://www.ancestry.com/mediaui-viewer/tree/161325518/person/162465286463/media/32563651-05bd-4f82-90a0-a5a86bb51c31?indiv=try&h&db. Accessed 7 Oct. 2023.

Benjamin Ratliff

M, #2904, b. 1733, d. September 1818

Parents

FatherRobert Anthony Ratliff (b. 15 September 1696, d. August 1738)
MotherMary Alice Touchstone (b. 1695, d. 24 June 1741)
Pedigree Link
Birth1733In Talbot County, Maryland, British America.1
Marriage3 April 1791In Pittsylvania County, Virginia, United States.1
DeathSeptember 1818At age ~85 in Pittslyvania County, Virginia, United States.1
Military2
Last Edited7 October 2023

Citations

  1. [S4521] "Benjamin Ratliff in the Geneanet Community Trees Index." Ancestry https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/7012256889:62476?indiv=try&h&db. Accessed 7 Oct. 2023.
  2. [S4520] "Benjamin Ratliff in the U.S., War of 1812 Service Records, 1812." 1815 https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/134818:4281?indiv=try&h&pid=28889177945&db. Accessed 7 Oct. 2023.

Mary Margaret Hinson

F, #2905, b. 1779, d. 1839
Pedigree Link

Family: Reverend William ("Bigger") Ratliff (b. 6 October 1762, d. 2 July 1816)

SonArchibald Ratliff (b. 1793, d. 12 October 1887)
SonStephen A. Ratliff (b. 28 June 1795, d. 12 July 1859)
SonElder James Ratliff (b. 19 January 1798, d. 16 April 1860)
DaughterMary Ratliff (b. 26 December 1800, d. 23 February 1864)
SonWilliam Ratliff (b. about 1806, d. 1860)
SonJonathan Ratliff (b. 18 February 1807, d. 13 November 1881)
SonAlexander Ratliff+ (b. 1811, d. 1889)
SonJordan Ratliff (b. 1812, d. 1841)
Birth1779
Marriageabout 17901
Death1839At age ~60.
Last Edited11 July 2023

Citations

  1. [S4070] Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/57221874/william-ratliff: accessed 11 July 2023), memorial page for Elder William Ratliff (6 Oct 1762–2 Jul 1816), Find a Grave Memorial ID 57221874, citing Center–Ratliff Cemetery, Center, Metcalfe County, Kentucky, USA; Maintained by Jude (contributor 46974697).

Samuel Telford

M, #2911
Misc1787Named in father's will.1
Last Edited11 July 2023

Citations

  1. [S3642] "Will." Ancestry https://www.ancestry.com/mediaui-viewer/tree/31832383/person/18455572826/media/dbfeea53-3cf1-43ee-a51a-3217286ae4d0?indiv=try&h&db. Accessed 13 May. 2023.

Margaret Telford

F, #2912, b. 1771
Birth17711
Misc1787Named in father's will.1
Last Edited11 July 2023

Citations

  1. [S3642] "Will." Ancestry https://www.ancestry.com/mediaui-viewer/tree/31832383/person/18455572826/media/dbfeea53-3cf1-43ee-a51a-3217286ae4d0?indiv=try&h&db. Accessed 13 May. 2023.

Rachel Telford

F, #2913
Misc1787Named in father's will.1
Last Edited11 July 2023

Citations

  1. [S3642] "Will." Ancestry https://www.ancestry.com/mediaui-viewer/tree/31832383/person/18455572826/media/dbfeea53-3cf1-43ee-a51a-3217286ae4d0?indiv=try&h&db. Accessed 13 May. 2023.

Jeremiah Telford

M, #2914, d. 1803
Death1803
Misc17871
Last Edited12 September 2023

Citations

  1. [S3642] "Will." Ancestry https://www.ancestry.com/mediaui-viewer/tree/31832383/person/18455572826/media/dbfeea53-3cf1-43ee-a51a-3217286ae4d0?indiv=try&h&db. Accessed 13 May. 2023.

Joseph Charles Spencer

M, #2917, b. 6 November 1738, d. January 1837

Parents

FatherWilliam David Spencer (b. 1706, d. 1794)
MotherSarah Hill (b. 1709, d. 1755)
Pedigree Link

Family: Mary DeRoachbroom (b. about 1731, d. 2 September 1816)

SonJoseph Spencer
SonWilliam David Spencer+ (b. 1765, d. 1830)
SonJohn Spencer (b. 1769, d. 24 March 1853)
DaughterPatience Spencer+ (b. 1770, d. 1831)
SonAaron Spencer (b. 1772, d. July 1822)
SonIsaac Spencer (b. 1780, d. 20 May 1847)
SonMoses Spencer (b. 8 December 1786, d. 10 September 1861)
Birth6 November 1738In Lee County, Virginia, British America.1
Marriage14 September 1749In Talbot, Maryland, British America.2
Marriagebetween 1816 and 1817Jemima was the widow of John Anglen
DeathJanuary 1837At age 98 in Lee County, Virginia, United States.1
BurialAt Spencer Cemetery in Lee County, Virginia, United States.
MiscParents... There is a William David Spencer, Sr but after immigrating he seems to have lived in South Carolina and died there too. How did he have our Joseph in Virginia?

This also makes me wonder if the David in our William David people is correct! If William David in South Carolina is not relevant... Two out of three sons listed in a tree I'm looking at were born in South carolina. I've seen these South Carolina Spencers before but thought them irrelevant.

YET I have DNA matches with 6 children of Mary DeRoachbroom (however it is spelled)which are the same ones as listed for Joseph Charles, who is fairly well documented.
MiscDNA Match. 2024
Only a couple of days later Scott is down to 79!

Scott has 84 DNA matches with Joseph Spencer b1738 with a HUGE list of children, including Freeman. 3 matches with William D. John and Moses most popular. Oh, all called half...

38 DNA matches with various children of Joseph Spencer b1738 all called half and I am the only one under William D Spencer.

Elizabeth 1761
John D 1766
Patience 1770
Aaron 1772
Isaac Newton 1780
Moses 1786
George B Freeman? (1790-1854)

January 2024 Scott using my tree
88 matches with multiple children, many called half
He does have 4 under William D
MiscWife? Some have him married to Louisa Sarah Rencher (1712-1783)with no records.
MilitaryCaptain? Not clear who or where the Captain was... Some records I see are for a Joseph Spencer who lives in Kentucky. Also are census records in Kentucky for a Joseph Spencer.3,4
Residence7 August 1820In Lee, Virginia, United States.5
Residence1830In Lee, Virginia, United States.6
Will1835In Lee County, Virginia, United States. The record says it was written 10 Aug 1835 and I think the probate date is 16 Jan 1837. I cannot read the sale date - looks like, but can't be, in 1834.

The summary is incorrect on the probate date - read the record

His wife is listed as Jemima, (Mary DeRoachbloom died in 1816).
names children John and Isaac Spencer.7
Last Edited23 January 2024

Citations

  1. [S4075] Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/23484265/joseph-charles-spencer: accessed 12 July 2023), memorial page for Joseph Charles Spencer (6 Nov 1738–6 Jan 1837), Find a Grave Memorial ID 23484265, citing Spencer Cemetery, Lee County, Virginia, USA; Maintained by country girl (contributor 47582877).
  2. [S4082] "Joseph Spencer in the Maryland, U.S., Compiled Marriage Index, 1634." 1777 https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/9602:4738?indiv=try&h&pid=322234845308&db. Accessed 12 Jul. 2023., See attached image
  3. [S4080] "Joseph Spencer in the American Genealogical." Biographical Index (AGBI) https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/1688370:3599?indiv=try&h&pid=102491770013&db. Accessed 12 Jul. 2023.
  4. [S4085] "Joseph Spencer in the U.S., Revolutionary War Rolls, 1775." 1783 https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/1579879:4282?indiv=try&h&pid=322234845308&db. Accessed 12 Jul. 2023., See attached image
  5. [S4083] "Joseph Spencer in the 1820 United States Federal Census." Ancestry https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/18537:7734?indiv=try&h&pid=322234845308&db. Accessed 12 Jul. 2023.
  6. [S4084] "Joseph Spencer in the 1830 United States Federal Census." Ancestry https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/846809:8058?indiv=try&h&pid=322234845308&db. Accessed 12 Jul. 2023.
  7. [S4079] "Joseph Spencer in the Virginia, U.S., Wills and Probate Records, 1652." 1900 https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/857925:62347?indiv=try&h&db. Accessed 12 Jul. 2023., The probate date in the summary is incorrect. I read it as 16 Jan 1837. Findagrave has him dying in January 1837.
    Note, my ancestor William David died in 1830
    See attached will image

Moses Spencer

M, #2918, b. 8 December 1786, d. 10 September 1861
An Isaac Spencer is in a SAR application married to Lucrecia Colt, father Joseph Spencer, mother Hannah Brown, child Joseph Spencer.
"Isaac Spencer in the U.S., Sons of the American Revolution Membership Applications, 1889." 1970 https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/32523:2204?indiv=try&h&db. Accessed 10 Aug. 2023.

Parents

FatherJoseph Charles Spencer (b. 6 November 1738, d. January 1837)
MotherMary DeRoachbroom (b. about 1731, d. 2 September 1816)
Pedigree Link
Birth8 December 1786In Montgomery County, Virginia, United States.1
Death10 September 1861At age 74 in Wolfe County, Kentucky, United States.1
BurialAt Spencer Cemetery in Wolfe County, Kentucky, United States.1
MiscMarried Elizabeth Deaton (1793-1874.)1
Last Edited10 August 2023

Citations

  1. [S4196] Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/23471053/moses-spencer: accessed 10 August 2023), memorial page for Moses Spencer (8 Dec 1786–10 Sep 1861), Find a Grave Memorial ID 23471053, citing Spencer Cemetery, Wolfe County, Kentucky, USA; Maintained by Gracie Katherine (contributor 47758127).

Patience Spencer

F, #2919, b. 1770, d. 1831

Parents

FatherJoseph Charles Spencer (b. 6 November 1738, d. January 1837)
MotherMary DeRoachbroom (b. about 1731, d. 2 September 1816)
Pedigree Link

Family: Jonathan Kelly (b. 1760, d. 1830)

DaughterMary Kelly (b. 1789, d. 1863)
SonIsaac Kelly (b. 1791, d. 1858)
DaughterAnna Kelly (b. 1795, d. 1896)
SonAlexander Kelly (b. 1828, d. 1858)
Birth1770In Lee County, Virginia, British America.1
Marriage17882,1
Death1831At age ~61 in Harlan County, Kentucky, United States.2,1
Last Edited10 August 2023

Citations

  1. [S4077] Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/78766958/patience-kelly: accessed 12 July 2023), memorial page for Patience Spencer Kelly (1770–1831), Find a Grave Memorial ID 78766958, citing Kelly-Parker-Rutherford Cemetery, Rutherford, Harlan County, Kentucky, USA; Maintained by country girl (contributor 47582877).
  2. [S4076] Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/58551505/john-spencer: accessed 12 July 2023), memorial page for John Spencer (1766–24 Mar 1853), Find a Grave Memorial ID 58551505, citing Red Hill Cemetery, Chavies, Perry County, Kentucky, USA; Maintained by Meadows_Ancestry (contributor 46972712).

Aaron Spencer

M, #2920, b. 1772, d. July 1822

Parents

FatherJoseph Charles Spencer (b. 6 November 1738, d. January 1837)
MotherMary DeRoachbroom (b. about 1731, d. 2 September 1816)
Pedigree Link
Birth17721
Marriage
DeathJuly 1822At age ~50.1
BurialAt Young Cemetery #295 in Dryden, Lee, Virginia, United States.1
Last Edited10 August 2023

Citations

  1. [S4078] Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/144184095/aaron-spencer: accessed 12 July 2023), memorial page for Aaron Spencer (1772–Jul 1822), Find a Grave Memorial ID 144184095, citing Young Cemetery #295, Dryden, Lee County, Virginia, USA; Maintained by Gathering Roots (contributor 47213048).

Isaac Spencer

M, #2921, b. 1780, d. 20 May 1847

Parents

FatherJoseph Charles Spencer (b. 6 November 1738, d. January 1837)
MotherMary DeRoachbroom (b. about 1731, d. 2 September 1816)
Pedigree Link
Birth1780Was he born in Boutetourt County Virginia, which is a long way from Lee County Virginia...
Death20 May 1847At age ~67 in Grassy Creek, Ashe, North Carolina, United States.
MiscAnother Isaac Spencer? There is a SAR application of Isaac Spencer, father Joseph Spencer, mother Hannah Brown, wife Lucrecia Colt.
"Isaac Spencer in the U.S., Sons of the American Revolution Membership Applications, 1889." 1970 https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/32523:2204?indiv=try&h&db. Accessed 10 Aug. 2023.
MiscMarried Sarah Poole in North Carolina.
Misc1837Named in father's will.1
Last Edited10 August 2023

Citations

  1. [S4079] "Joseph Spencer in the Virginia, U.S., Wills and Probate Records, 1652." 1900 https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/857925:62347?indiv=try&h&db. Accessed 12 Jul. 2023., The probate date in the summary is incorrect. I read it as 16 Jan 1837. Findagrave has him dying in January 1837.
    Note, my ancestor William David died in 1830
    See attached will image

John Spencer

M, #2922, b. 1769, d. 24 March 1853
A John Spencer was named in Joseph Spencer's will (1738-1837). Did our Joseph Charles go to North Carolina?

Parents

FatherJoseph Charles Spencer (b. 6 November 1738, d. January 1837)
MotherMary DeRoachbroom (b. about 1731, d. 2 September 1816)
Pedigree Link
Birth1769In Wilkes County, North Carolina, British America.1
Death24 March 1853At age ~84 in Perry County, Kentucky, United States.1
MiscNorth Carolina. There may be confusion with another John Spencer... The findagrave associated with Joseph who lived his life in Virginia was born in North Carolina!
MiscMarried Johannah Pennington (1762-1853.)1,2
Misc1837Named in his father's will.3
Last Edited21 January 2024

Citations

  1. [S4076] Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/58551505/john-spencer: accessed 12 July 2023), memorial page for John Spencer (1766–24 Mar 1853), Find a Grave Memorial ID 58551505, citing Red Hill Cemetery, Chavies, Perry County, Kentucky, USA; Maintained by Meadows_Ancestry (contributor 46972712).
  2. [S4665] Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/58551566/johannah-spencer: accessed 21 January 2024), memorial page for Johannah Pennington Spencer (23 Sep 1762–24 Jun 1853), Find a Grave Memorial ID 58551566, citing Red Hill Cemetery, Chavies, Perry County, Kentucky, USA; Maintained by Meadows_Ancestry (contributor 46972712).
  3. [S4079] "Joseph Spencer in the Virginia, U.S., Wills and Probate Records, 1652." 1900 https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/857925:62347?indiv=try&h&db. Accessed 12 Jul. 2023., The probate date in the summary is incorrect. I read it as 16 Jan 1837. Findagrave has him dying in January 1837.
    Note, my ancestor William David died in 1830
    See attached will image

Mary DeRoachbroom

F, #2923, b. about 1731, d. 2 September 1816
Pedigree Link

Family: Joseph Charles Spencer (b. 6 November 1738, d. January 1837)

SonJoseph Spencer
SonWilliam David Spencer+ (b. 1765, d. 1830)
SonJohn Spencer (b. 1769, d. 24 March 1853)
DaughterPatience Spencer+ (b. 1770, d. 1831)
SonAaron Spencer (b. 1772, d. July 1822)
SonIsaac Spencer (b. 1780, d. 20 May 1847)
SonMoses Spencer (b. 8 December 1786, d. 10 September 1861)
Birthabout 1731In Lee County, Virginia, British America.1
Marriage14 September 1749In Talbot, Maryland, British America.2
Death2 September 1816In Lee County, Virginia, United States.3
MiscDNA Matches. January 2024 0 DNA matches with Mary DeRoachbroom.

19 DNA matches with 6 children of Mary DeRoachbroom. Most of them not with our William D.
Scott Borgmier does not have anything relevant to this.

Jan 2024 Scott my tree has 0 matches with DeRoachbroom
MiscWhat is her name? Marriage record says her name is Mary DeRoachbroom, but some trees call her Rebecca Deroachbroom. I've also seen her as Mary Broom.

Findagrave has her as Mary DeRoachbloom Deaton Spencer. Did she marry a Deaton?

I also see Deroachbrune
Misc1816Married Jemina Anglin in Lee, Virginia, United States.
Last Edited22 January 2024

Citations

  1. [S4081] Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/121228350/mary-spencer: accessed 12 July 2023), memorial page for Mary DeRoachbloom Deaton Spencer (unknown–2 Sep 1816), Find a Grave Memorial ID 121228350, citing Spencer Cemetery, Lee County, Virginia, USA; Maintained by country girl (contributor 47582877).
  2. [S4082] "Joseph Spencer in the Maryland, U.S., Compiled Marriage Index, 1634." 1777 https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/9602:4738?indiv=try&h&pid=322234845308&db. Accessed 12 Jul. 2023., See attached image
  3. [S4664] Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/121228350/mary-spencer: accessed 21 January 2024), memorial page for Mary DeRoachbloom Deaton Spencer (unknown–2 Sep 1816), Find a Grave Memorial ID 121228350, citing Spencer Cemetery, Lee County, Virginia, USA; Maintained by country girl (contributor 47582877).

Mary Elizabeth Dyne Laine

F, #2924, b. about 1617, d. 1680
ReferencesAncestors

Parents

Pedigree Link

Family: James Courtney (b. about 1611)

SonJames Courtney+ (b. about 1640, d. 1698)
Birthabout 1617In Westmoreland County, Virginia, British America. Or Bedford County1
Marriage23 May 1639In Maryland, British America.1
Death1680In Westmoreland County, Virginia, British America.1
Last Edited27 October 2024

Citations

  1. [S7242] "Ancestors of Mary Dyne Laine." Davidleas https://www.davidleas.com/leas family genealogy/2/29019.htm. Accessed 27 Oct. 2024., The death date of James Courtney quoted here is his son who was born about 1640.

James Courtney

M, #2925, b. about 1690, d. after 1757

Parents

FatherJames Courtney (b. about 1640, d. 1698)
MotherMary Jenkins (b. 1673, d. October 1727)
Pedigree Link

Family: Mary (d. 26 October 1756)

DaughterRosamond Courtney (b. 1710, d. 1730)
Birthabout 1690In Northumberland County, Virginia, British America. I see 1673 and 16901
Marriage1
Deathafter 1757In Virginia, British America.1
MiscIs he John James? and not a separate person?
MiscChildren. I'm only adding Rosamond Courtney b after 1710 to give her a proper home and not with a father who was dead when she was conceived.1
Last Edited27 October 2024

Citations

  1. [S7224] "James Courtney b. Abt 1690 Cople Parish, Westmoreland County, Virginia d. Aft 1747 Cople Parish, Westmoreland County, Virginia: Early Colonial Settlers of Southern Maryland and Virginia's Northern Neck Counties." Colonial-settlers-md-va https://www.colonial-settlers-md-va.us/getperson.php?personID=I43585&tree=Tree1. Accessed 27 Oct. 2024.