Catherine Weir
F, #2526, b. 1823
Parents
Abigail Frost
F, #2529, b. 7 October 1744, d. 1840
For information about the Frost family, see
Frost, W. W. (Wright Wilson). (1962). The Frosts and related families of Bedford County, Tennessee ... [1st ed.] Knoxville, Tenn.
Birth | 7 October 1744 | In Morris, New Jersey, British Colonial America.1,2 |
Marriage | 1762 | In North Carolina, British America.3,4,5,1,2 |
Death | 1840 | At age ~96 in Calloway, Kentucky, United States. |
Misc | | DNA Match - OK. 7/23/2024 Scott on baby tree 6 matches on William Van Cleave - some checked both parents.
Scott Borgmier 30 DNA matches with 5 children of Abigail Frost |
Misc | | Parents: William Frost and Abigail Fairchild.6 |
Citations
- [S3648] "William Van Cleave in the U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560." 1900 https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/1252469:7836?indiv=try&h&db. Accessed 15 May. 2023.
- [S3651] "#13 - The Frosts and related families of Bedford County, Tennessee ... - Full View." HathiTrust Digital Library https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=wu.89062950704&view=1up&seq=13&q1=abigail. Accessed 15 May. 2023.
- [S3562] The Van Cleave Story. Genealogy Newspaper Columns of Robert E. Turman, Tri-State Genealogical Society, McDowell Publications, Owensboro, Ky., 1981, pp.70-76, originally appeared in the Sullivan Union, Sullivan, Indiana, about 1953. Published in Kentucky Pioneer Genealogy and Records, Vol. 9, Society of Kentucky Pioneers (Utica, KY: McDowell Publications, 1988), 79-85. Downloaded 5/5/2023 from https://wckyhistory-genealogy.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/Jerry20Long20-20Van20Cleave20Story.pdf, This article was published in Genealogy Newspaper Columns of Robert E.
Turman, Tri-State Genealogical Society, McDowell Publications, Owensboro, Ky., 1981, pp.70-76, originally appeared in the Sullivan Union, Sullivan, Indiana, about 1953.
See attached PDF:
The Van Cleave Story.pdf![](../st/pdficon.png)
- [S3578] Gosney Family Records, 1740-1940, and related families, page 259-262. Downloaded from ancestry.com 5/6/2023., See images of pages 259-262
![Van Cleave in Gosney Family Records page 259](../st/picicon.png)
![Van Cleave in Gosney Family Records page 260](../st/picicon.png)
![Van Cleave in Gosney Family Records page 261](../st/picicon.png)
![Van Cleave in Gosney Family Records page 262](../st/picicon.png)
- [S3586] Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/156616647/william-van_cleave: accessed 07 May 2023), memorial page for William Van Cleave (1743–1787), Find a Grave Memorial ID 156616647; Burial Details Unknown; Maintained by Allan Wenzel (contributor 47403362).
- [S5564] "Abigail (Frost) Van Cleave (1744-1840)." WikiTree FREE Family Tree https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Frost-2259. Accessed 10 Jun. 2024., More information and lots of sources on the website.
Jane Van Cleave
F, #2530, b. 1771
Parents
Birth | 1771 | |
Marriage | April 1796 | "Noble and Jane Dougherty" are mentioned several times in William Van Cleave's will.
The problem is both Noble Daugherty and Nathan Chapman cannot have married the same Jane VanCleave at the same time and had children during the same time period. So who are these Jane VanCleaves? See Daugherty's of Kentucky for the Noble story.1 |
Misc | | DNA match. With Scott with no tree, we get a match with the Jane Van Cleave who married Noble Daugherty. But they don't know who her parents are... |
Citations
- [S3646] "Will." Ancestry https://www.ancestry.com/mediaui-viewer/tree/26584393/person/12452117722/media/07d86897-ff36-4941-910b-df67d9abfa5a?indiv=try&h&db. Accessed 15 May. 2023., Note about the will from here: https://www.ancestry.com/mediaui-viewer/tree/6868770/person/-1211912456/media/0a864018-bd68-4c51-84b9-7257ce3885c4
Mercer County-Will Book 1-page 75
William Vancleve--Names wife, Abigail. Children, Elizabeth, Jane, Mary, John, Ebenezer and William. Son Jonathan and his sister, Sarah, deceased. Daughter, Phebe Harris. Exec's., Friend, William Crow, and my wife, Abigail. Written Sept. 2, 1786. Witnesses, Thomas and William Gilmore, Rachel Vancleve and Katherine Anderson. Proved Feb. Court 1788.
Phoebe Elizabeth Van Cleave
F, #2531, b. 16 May 1766, d. 1 July 1852
Parents
Birth | 16 May 1766 | In Rowan County, North Carolina, British America.1,2 |
Death | 1 July 1852 | At age 86 in Mercer County, Kentucky, United States.1,2 |
Misc | | Married Samuel Harris.1 |
Religious Affiliation | | Phoebe Elizabeth Van Cleave was affiliated with Shakers.3,4 |
Citations
- [S3654] Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/215748219/elizabeth-harris: accessed 15 May 2023), memorial page for Elizabeth Van Cleave Harris (16 May 1766–1 Jul 1852), Find a Grave Memorial ID 215748219, citing Shaker Cemetery, Mercer County, Kentucky, USA; Maintained by Allan Wenzel (contributor 47403362).
- [S5256] "Elizabeth Harris in the Kentucky, U.S., Death Records, 1852." 1965 https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/601543:1222?indiv=try&h&db. Accessed 1 May. 2024.
- [S3657] "Shaker Cemetery in Kentucky." Find a Grave Cemetery https://www.findagrave.com/cemetery/2300938/shaker-cemetery. Accessed 15 May. 2023.
- [S3658] "Media Item(13)." Ancestry https://www.ancestry.com/mediaui-viewer/tree/112311647/person/350100018650/media/923fa28b-f159-426e-9ff1-e91f022f6660?indiv=try&h&db. Accessed 15 May. 2023., See attached image
![Van Cleave Elizabeth b1766 Shaker record](../st/picicon.png)
John Van Cleave
M, #2533, b. 31 January 1768, d. 14 September 1847
Parents
Birth | 31 January 1768 | In Rowan County, North Carolina, British America.1 |
Death | 14 September 1847 | At age 79 in Mercer County, Kentucky, United States.1 |
Misc | | Married Jane Benches (1765-1829.)1 |
Citations
- [S3655] Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/100342495/jonathan-van_cleave: accessed 15 May 2023), memorial page for Jonathan Van Cleave (31 Jan 1768–14 Sep 1847), Find a Grave Memorial ID 100342495, citing Shaker Cemetery, Mercer County, Kentucky, USA; Maintained by Kathy S. (contributor 46944127).
Ebenezer Frost Van Cleave
M, #2534, b. about 1772, d. after 1860
Parents
Birth | about 1772 | In North Carolina, British America.1 |
Marriage | 8 October 1796 | In Madison, Kentucky, United States.2 |
Death | after 18601 | |
Occupation | | Farmer.1 |
Misc | 1819 | Marries Sarah Elizabeth Garrick in Tennessee, United States.3 |
Residence | 1860 | In District 1, Breathitt, Kentucky, United States.1 |
Citations
- [S3660] "Ebenezer F Vancleav in the 1860 United States Federal Census." Ancestry https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/39297389:7667?indiv=try&h&db. Accessed 15 May. 2023.
- [S3661] "Ebenezer Vancleave in the Madison County, Kentucky, Marriage Index, 1786." 1844 https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/7474:5679?indiv=try&h&db. Accessed 15 May. 2023.
- [S3662] "Ebenezer Fros Van Cleave in the U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560." 1900 https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/1252437:7836?indiv=try&h&db. Accessed 15 May. 2023.
William Van Cleave
M, #2535, b. 9 October 1781, d. 27 February 1855
Parents
Birth | 9 October 1781 | In Jefferson County, Kentucky, United States.1 |
Death | 27 February 1855 | At age 73 in Johnson County, Illinois, United States.1 |
Misc | 1807 | Married Elizabeth Frost (1784-1863.)1 |
Citations
- [S3656] Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/215750651/william-van_cleave: accessed 15 May 2023), memorial page for William Van Cleave (9 Oct 1781–27 Feb 1855), Find a Grave Memorial ID 215750651; Burial Details Unknown; Maintained by Allan Wenzel (contributor 47403362).
John Van Cleave
M, #2536, b. 1739, d. 12 May 1812
Parents
Birth | 1739 | In New Brunswick, Middlesex County, New Jersey, British America.1 |
Death | 12 May 1812 | At age ~73 in Jefferson County, Indiana, United States.2,1 |
Misc | | Marriages. Married Mary Shepherd (-1781) and Rachel Demaree Ryker (1743-1814)1 |
Military | | Revolutionary War.1 |
Residence | 15 November 1779 | In Bryant Station, Kentucky, United States.1 |
Misc | 1788 | Named in his father's will.2 |
Citations
- [S5565] Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/34290623/john-van_cleave: accessed June 10, 2024), memorial page for John Van Cleave (1739–12 May 1812), Find a Grave Memorial ID 34290623, citing Rykers Ridge Cemetery Old, Central, Jefferson County, Indiana, USA; Maintained by Allan Wenzel (contributor 47403362).
- [S3646] "Will." Ancestry https://www.ancestry.com/mediaui-viewer/tree/26584393/person/12452117722/media/07d86897-ff36-4941-910b-df67d9abfa5a?indiv=try&h&db. Accessed 15 May. 2023., Note about the will from here: https://www.ancestry.com/mediaui-viewer/tree/6868770/person/-1211912456/media/0a864018-bd68-4c51-84b9-7257ce3885c4
Mercer County-Will Book 1-page 75
William Vancleve--Names wife, Abigail. Children, Elizabeth, Jane, Mary, John, Ebenezer and William. Son Jonathan and his sister, Sarah, deceased. Daughter, Phebe Harris. Exec's., Friend, William Crow, and my wife, Abigail. Written Sept. 2, 1786. Witnesses, Thomas and William Gilmore, Rachel Vancleve and Katherine Anderson. Proved Feb. Court 1788.
Sarah Van Cleave
F, #2537, b. about 1763, d. September 1786
Parents
Birth | about 1763 | In Rowan County, North Carolina, British America. |
Death | September 1786 | Killed by Indians in Kentucky, United States.1,2 |
Citations
- [S3646] "Will." Ancestry https://www.ancestry.com/mediaui-viewer/tree/26584393/person/12452117722/media/07d86897-ff36-4941-910b-df67d9abfa5a?indiv=try&h&db. Accessed 15 May. 2023., Note about the will from here: https://www.ancestry.com/mediaui-viewer/tree/6868770/person/-1211912456/media/0a864018-bd68-4c51-84b9-7257ce3885c4
Mercer County-Will Book 1-page 75
William Vancleve--Names wife, Abigail. Children, Elizabeth, Jane, Mary, John, Ebenezer and William. Son Jonathan and his sister, Sarah, deceased. Daughter, Phebe Harris. Exec's., Friend, William Crow, and my wife, Abigail. Written Sept. 2, 1786. Witnesses, Thomas and William Gilmore, Rachel Vancleve and Katherine Anderson. Proved Feb. Court 1788. - [S3663] Spencer, John H. A History of Kentucky Baptists: From 1769 to 1885, Including More Than 800 Biographical Sketches. Vol. Volume I. J. R. Baumes, 1885. Downloaded 5/15/20-23
Cornelus Willemse Cowenhouen
M, #2538, b. 29 November 1672, d. 16 May 1736
I am spelling his name as it is spelled on his tombstone.
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Cornelus Cowenhoue tombstone
Parents
Birth | 29 November 1672 | In Flatlands, Kings County (Brooklyn), New York, British America.1,2,3 |
Marriage | 3 September 1700 | In Flatlands, Kings, New York, British America.4,3 |
Death | 16 May 1736 | At age 63 in Pleasant Valley, Monmouth County, New Jersey, British America.3 |
Burial | | At Schenck-Couwenhoven Cemetery in Pleasant Valley, Monmouth County, New Jersey, British America. |
Citations
- [S3653] Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/30378907/cornelis-willemse-van_kouwenhoven: accessed 15 May 2023), memorial page for Cornelis Willemse “Cornelius Couwenhoven” Van Kouwenhoven (29 Nov 1671–16 May 1736), Find a Grave Memorial ID 30378907, citing Schenck-Couwenhoven Cemetery, Holmdel, Monmouth County, New Jersey, USA; Maintained by BethB in Rockford MI (contributor 46813543).
- [S5339] Stillwell, J. E. 1. (2022). Historical and Genealogical Miscellany; Data Relating to the Settlement and Settlers of New York and New Jersey; Volume 2. United States: Creative Media Partners, LLC.. Accessed 5/13/2024 on Internet Archive., See PDF file:
Cowenhouen bible records historicalgeneal02stil_0373.pdf![Cowenhouen bible records](../st/pdficon.png)
- [S5343] "Cornelis Willemse (Couwenhove) van Couwenhoven (abt.1672-1736)." WikiTree FREE Family Tree https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Couwenhove-2. Accessed 13 May. 2024., For more information and sources, see:
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Couwenhove-2 - [S3993] Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/39831862/margaretta-covenhoven: accessed 27 June 2023), memorial page for Margaretta Schenck Covenhoven (16 Jan 1678–6 Dec 1751), Find a Grave Memorial ID 39831862, citing Schenck-Couwenhoven Cemetery, Holmdel, Monmouth County, New Jersey, USA; Maintained by thom healy (contributor 46628255)., Tombstone photo with death year and husband's name.
John Ratliff
M, #2539, b. about 1750, d. 1845
John Ratliff was a blacksmith and gunsmith in this area in the 1790s. He married Charlotte “Lottie” White, daughter of Abednego White, a prosperous merchant and farmer in Tazewell and Russell Counties. (Source: "The First Settlers" Buchanan Co., VA) John (born in 1782-died in 1835, in Jackson Co., MS, at age 53) came to Russell Co., VA and settled in 1795. He was a gunsmith and was trained probably in Lancaster Co., VA. He opened the Salt Works in 1801.
Is he the person who married Annie Dobbs? DNA says yes.
He is often called John A. Ratliff and sometimes John S. Ratliff... There must be two people, but who is who?
![](../ti/Ratliff-John-and-Charlotte-White-0200-0110.jpg)
Said to be John Ratliff and Charlotte White
Parents
Daughter | Mary ("Polly") Ratliff (b. about 1797, d. before 1850) |
Son | Richard ("Dick") Ratliff+ (b. 1799, d. after 1870) |
Daughter | Rebecca Ratliff (b. 1800, d. ABT 1831–1839) |
Daughter | Lydia B. Ratliff+ (b. 1801, d. January 1862) |
Son | Abednego ("Ben") Ratliff+ (b. 1803, d. 4 June 1890) |
Son | John Ratliff+ (b. about 1805, d. 1847) |
Son | Elijah Ratliff (b. about 1805, d. after 1880) |
Son | Reuben Ratliff (b. 1805, d. 1871) |
Son | Shadrack ("Shade") Ratliff (b. about 1806, d. 20 October 1878) |
Son | William M. Ratliff+ (b. 1814, d. between 1866 and 1870) |
Daughter | Nancy Ratliff (b. 1817, d. 1892) |
Birth | about 1750 | In Augusta Co., Virginia, British America. Before 1775, set by 1820 Tazewell Co, VA Census in which he was over 45. 1750 set by his supposed life events.1,2,3 |
Marriage | about 1772 | In Virginia, British America. This date would mean his birth date is wrong but the first child from this marriage in the lists was born in 1780, still too young.4,5 |
Marriage | 1801 | In Virginia, United States. Marriage record says Charlotte White was born in Virginia and she was born in 1765.6,1 |
Death | 1845 | Some Descendants of John Ratliff and Charlotte White, 1765-1997, by Larry Ratliff, says he died in Missouri, but no records confirm that. https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Ratliff-1569.
Someone else says he died in Mississippi (also see land transaction by some John Ratliff in Mississippi). See the record on this. It is a John Ratlif with 4 males and 3 females. Unlikely he could have managed that after he left Lottie White...
There is a findagrave that is a mess with two wives and has him dying in Crawford County, Arkansas in 1832. Must be another John who married Annie Dobbs (1752-1816)?
"John RATLIFF was born in Augusta County, Virginia. He was the son of Ruben RATLIFF and Francis ???. John died in Jackson County, Missouri. He married Charlotte WHITE in Russell County, Virginia. John and Charlotte's marriage record was destroyed in the Russell COunty courthouse fire. She was born 12 February 774 in Prince George County, Maryland. She was the daughter of Aednego WHITE and Mary???. Charlotte died in Tazewell County, Virginia. "
Ratliff John b1766 in Some Descendants if John Ratliff and Charlotte White1,7 |
Misc | | Wives. He may have had a wife before Charlotte White. Annie Dobbs (1752–1816) whom he may have married around 1772. BUT for that to be the case, his birth year is off by a number of years. His first child by her in lists was born in 1780 when he would have been 14.
I am adding Annie Dobbs and her children because DNA seems to indicate they and I are descended from John Ratliff.4 |
Misc | | First Settlers.8 |
Occupation | | Blacksmith and gunsmith.3 |
Misc | | Occupation and whereabouts.9,10,3 |
Misc | | In Mississippi in 1830 or 1840? |
Misc | | DNA Matches. April 2024 62 matches now... Not in tree: James T. (1780-1853) 2 matches H their tree says James T is son of John A (1759-1832) and Annie Dobbs (1752-1801). John A said to be a son of Reuben Ratliff but they are a relative... Not in tree: John/Job (1782-1870-75) 3 matches H not believable, but related... Another John Ratliff (1753) and Annie Dobbs Some have three wives: Annie Dobbs, Sarah Jordan Bates, Charlotte White Mary Polly 11 matches H called half, but the ones I looked at are John and Charlotte White Not in tree: Thompson (1798-1883) 1 match H Richard (1799-1860) 15 matches Lydia (1801-1862) 4 matches Shadrack (1806-1878) 1 match H Rebecca (1810-1831) 1 match William (1814-1864) 2 matches and a probably bogus Richard.
April 2024. Still 65 matches. Some called half.
Jan 2024. 65 matches, 21 with my John, 15 with Richard but that's tree issues. Many called half. The ones with John are ONLY with his son Geroge W. so trees are wrong...
58 matches over multiple children. NOTE, White married him in 1801 according to my tree. The children born before that are half. The ones in my list after are full. 18 matches with John.
Scott's DNA matches shockingly well, full relatives, with the children of William Ratliff (1762-1816) then Alexander (1815-1895) then Marthenia which is ridiculous. |
Misc | | List of Children. Does not include our John. Does not include Rebecca (1800-1839) Reuben (1806-1873) who married a Sarah Johnson in 1837 Rachel Jane (1808) https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/33646862/person/18532631085/facts
Of course, we have no proof of the parentage of these either...
Also does not include a James mentioned here:
William Ratliff b. 1815 & bother, James Ratliff b. 1811 were both injured. Both endured an injury to the right hand
https://www.ancestry.com/mediaui-viewer/tree/62710096/person/300195711333/media/164d7c0e-f5c2-4eb0-aabc-0de1910cfa66?destTreeId=62710096&destPersonId=300195711333&src=em _______________ Some trees have a number of children for Charlotte born before she married John. Job, Thompson, Nancy, another Abednego... https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/116251348/person/200155421355/facts ___________________ Some have an Elijah with no information. I have removed Elijah.2,10,4 |
Misc | | Parents - Ruben Ratliff and Francis ???2,1 |
Occupation | 1801 | Salt Operation in Tazewell County, Virginia, United States.11 |
Property | 1801 | Abednego White, ? Russell Co., Va., to John Ratliff, 1801; p42 in 1801 in Tazewell Co. Virginia, United States.12,13 |
Military | 1809 | In Tazewell County, Virginia, United States. Was he a corporal? There is a second record that does not name the county he lived in.14,15 |
Residence | 7 August 1820 | In Tazewell, Virginia, United States.16 |
Citations
- [S3682] Some Descendants of John Ratliff & Charlotte White, 1765-1997. By Larry Ratliff, Jack Hockett, Gerald Ratliff
(1998, 2007), 2021, Heritage Books. - [S3766] Ratliff, Larry, Jack Hockett, and Gerald Ratliff. Some Descendants of John Ratliff & Charlotte White 1765-1997. Bowie, Md: Heritage Books, 2021., See images
You can search for snippets here:
https://www.google.com/books/edition/Some_Descendants_of_John_Ratliff_Charlot/EnIbAQAAMAAJ![Children of John Ratliff b1766](../st/picicon.png)
- [S4054] The Heritage of Russell County, Virginia, 1786-1986. (1989). United States: Russell County Heritage Book Committee. Limited search snippets allowed from google, 7/9/2023. Book not available.
- [S5214] Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/67823847/john_a-ratliff: accessed April 27, 2024), memorial page for John A. Ratliff (1750–1832), Find a Grave Memorial ID 67823847; Burial Details Unknown; Maintained by Coleah (contributor 46578837).
- [S5216] Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/67823896/annie-ratliff: accessed April 27, 2024), memorial page for Annie Dobbs Ratliff (unknown–unknown), Find a Grave Memorial ID 67823896; Burial Details Unknown; Maintained by Coleah (contributor 46578837).
- [S3677] "Charlotte White in the U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560." 1900 https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/1313063:7836?indiv=try&h&db. Accessed 16 May. 2023.
- [S5123] "John Ratliff in the Mississippi, U.S., State and Territorial Census Collection, 1792." 1866 https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/52787:1125?indiv=try&h&pid=322444291823&db. Accessed 13 Apr. 2024., This record shows 4 males and 3 females. How could our John have gotten such a large family after leaving Lottie? I'm pretty sure it is not him.
- [S4062] Buchanan County Early Settlers, page 7. Found on ancestry.com 7/11/2023., This is the source of the picture reputed to be John and Lottie Ratliff. see image of the page.
![Ratliff among the first settlers in Buchanan County](../st/picicon.png)
- [S4032] "Blacksmith gone west." Ancestry https://www.ancestry.com/mediaui-viewer/collection/1030/tree/31001706/person/12527760992/media/64796ca4-7b1c-4d9d-b2d0-833ab5a6399c?indiv=try&h&_phsrc=Sgq2658&pid=12527760992&db. Accessed 8 Jul. 2023., Well, well, well...
- [S4051] WHITE, RATCLIFFE (Ratdifr, Ratiiir, Ratiiffc) & SOME RELATED FAMILIES
MENTIONS IN TAZEWELL CO. VA (TCV) ORDER BOOKS 1801-1840
Jack Hockett, 270 Iven Ave., 2-c, St. David's, PA 19087, 04 Sep 1995. Downloaded 7/9/2023 from familysearch.org., Downloaded from familysearch.org, the filename is
WHITE, RATCLIFFE & SOME RELATED FAMILIES - FS - FL931427_TN-699602.pdf - [S4504] "Ancestry.com." Annals of Tazewell County, Virginia from 1800 to 1922 in two volumes https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/10528/images/dvm_LocHist000179-00145-1?indiv=try&h&db. Accessed 6 Oct. 2023.
- [S4503] Annals of Tazewell County, Virginia from 1800 to 1922, Vol. I. Chapter XVI. Benealogy shown by deeds--Deed book no. 1. From 1800 to 1809, p288. "Ancestry.com." Annals of Tazewell County, Virginia from 1800 to 1922 in two volumes https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/10528/images/dvm_LocHist000179-00145-0?indiv=try&h&db. Accessed 6 Oct. 2023.
- [S5970] "Ancestry.com." Annals of Tazewell County, Virginia from 1800 to 1922 in two volumes https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/10528/images/dvm_LocHist000179-00145-0?indiv=try&h&db. Accessed 20 Jul. 2024.
- [S4505] "Ancestry.com." Annals of Tazewell County, Virginia from 1800 to 1922 in two volumes https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/10528/images/dvm_LocHist000179-00091-1?indiv=try&h&db. Accessed 6 Oct. 2023.
- [S5124] "John Ratcliffe in the U.S., Revolutionary War Rolls, 1775." 1783 https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/1492223:4282?indiv=try&h&pid=322444291823&db. Accessed 13 Apr. 2024., Another record does seem to say corporal.
This record says
U.S., Revolutionary War Rolls, 1775-1783 for John Ratcliffe
Continental Troops Von Heer´s Troop of Light Dragoons (Folder 17) - 1st Reg of Artillery, 1777-1783 (Folders 20-25)
I cannot the content and it just seems to be names anyway.![Ratcliffe John corporal](../st/picicon.png)
- [S4029] "John Ratliff in the 1820 United States Federal Census." Ancestry https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/7463:7734?indiv=try&h&db. Accessed 7 Jul. 2023.
Charlotte ("Lottie") White
F, #2540, b. 12 February 1774, d. after 1850
Parents
Family: John Ratliff (b. about 1750, d. 1845)
Daughter | Mary ("Polly") Ratliff (b. about 1797, d. before 1850) |
Son | Richard ("Dick") Ratliff+ (b. 1799, d. after 1870) |
Daughter | Rebecca Ratliff (b. 1800, d. ABT 1831–1839) |
Daughter | Lydia B. Ratliff+ (b. 1801, d. January 1862) |
Son | Abednego ("Ben") Ratliff+ (b. 1803, d. 4 June 1890) |
Son | John Ratliff+ (b. about 1805, d. 1847) |
Son | Elijah Ratliff (b. about 1805, d. after 1880) |
Son | Reuben Ratliff (b. 1805, d. 1871) |
Son | Shadrack ("Shade") Ratliff (b. about 1806, d. 20 October 1878) |
Son | William M. Ratliff+ (b. 1814, d. between 1866 and 1870) |
Daughter | Nancy Ratliff (b. 1817, d. 1892) |
Birth | 12 February 1774 | In Prince Georges County, Maryland, British America. Marriage record says Charlotte White the wife of John Ratliff was born in 1765.1,2,3,4,5 |
Marriage | 1801 | In Virginia, United States. Marriage record says Charlotte White was born in Virginia and she was born in 1765.6,7 |
Death | after 18508 | |
Misc | | Her story.9 |
Misc | | DNA Matches - good. Feb 2024 I have 56 matches with Charlotte. 21 with John and 15 with Richard. Mary called half, the rest full.
Scott has 115 matches with Charlotte White. Mary and Reuben are called half. 51 with Richard and only 22 with John but that's because of bad trees I think. Looking another way, 10 matches with John but 18 under Richard, but that's due to tree error putting our ancestors under Richard. Lydia, Abednego, Shadrack, William, Richard are called full. Reuben is called half along with Mary.
55 DNA matches to a bunch of children. Need to follow their lines because some of them are not in my tree... 21 to apparently our John Ratliff. All called full but Mary who is half. Mary is in my list, but maybe another wife? |
Misc | | Parents: Abednego WHITE and Mary ???6 |
Religious Affiliation | | Charlotte ("Lottie") White was affiliated with Anglican.5 |
Residence | 1830 | In Russell, Virginia, United States.10 |
Residence | 1850 | In Western District, Tazewell, Virginia, United States. Living with son William8 |
Last Edited | 29 September 2024 |
Citations
- [S3664] "Maryland, Church Records, 1668." 1995 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QGKL-1ZVK. Accessed 15 May. 2023., See image
![White Sharlot b1774 birth record](../st/picicon.png)
- [S3676] "My Genealogy Home Page:Information about Charlotte 'Lottie' White." Genealogy https://www.genealogy.com/ftm/r/a/t/Crystal-M-Ratliff/WEBSITE-0001/UHP-0021.html. Accessed and copied 16 May. 2023., The birth record for Sharlot White born in 1774 in Marland says her parents were Benjamin White and Mary. Where did Abednego come from? Ben could be short for Abednego and note the child name Abednego.
- [S3768] "Maryland Births and Christenings, 1650." 1995 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F48H-CJ2. Accessed 1 Jun. 2023.
- [S4051] WHITE, RATCLIFFE (Ratdifr, Ratiiir, Ratiiffc) & SOME RELATED FAMILIES
MENTIONS IN TAZEWELL CO. VA (TCV) ORDER BOOKS 1801-1840
Jack Hockett, 270 Iven Ave., 2-c, St. David's, PA 19087, 04 Sep 1995. Downloaded 7/9/2023 from familysearch.org., Downloaded from familysearch.org, the filename is
WHITE, RATCLIFFE & SOME RELATED FAMILIES - FS - FL931427_TN-699602.pdf - [S4055] "Maryland Births and Christenings, 1650." 1995 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:HYGV-FJT2. Accessed 10 Jul. 2023.
- [S3677] "Charlotte White in the U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560." 1900 https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/1313063:7836?indiv=try&h&db. Accessed 16 May. 2023.
- [S3682] Some Descendants of John Ratliff & Charlotte White, 1765-1997. By Larry Ratliff, Jack Hockett, Gerald Ratliff
(1998, 2007), 2021, Heritage Books. - [S4031] "Wm Ratliff in the 1850 United States Federal Census." Ancestry https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/15590830:8054?indiv=try&h&db. Accessed 7 Jul. 2023.
- [S3767] "Charlotte White (1765-aft.1850)." WikiTree FREE Family Tree https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/White-47080. Accessed 1 Jun. 2023., Sources
Ratliff, Larry et al. Some Descendants of John Ratliff and Charlotte White, 1765-1997. Bowie, MD: Heritage Books, 1998. - [S4057] "Charlotte Ratcliff in the 1830 United States Federal Census." Ancestry https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/925196:8058?indiv=try&h&db. Accessed 10 Jul. 2023., Apparently head of household. Consistent with hints that her husband John Ratliff had left to go "west".
![White Charlotte b1774 in 1830 US Census](../st/picicon.png)
William M. Ratliff
M, #2541, b. 1814, d. between 1866 and 1870
William was a farmer. He was the son of Charlotte "Lottie" White and John Ratliff. There are no records showing William's middle name. The only record that could be located indicating a middle initial was in his son Jacob M. (erroneously listed as John) Ratliff's death record as W. M. Ratcliff. It has been listed as Muncie and as Matney but it is likely that he had no actual middle name.
Parents
Birth | 1814 | In Russell County, Virginia, United States.1,2 |
Marriage3 | | |
Marriage | 1 April 1852 | In Tazewell County, Virginia, United States.3 |
Death | between 1866 and 1870 | In Buchanan County, Virginia, United States.1 |
Education | | Illiterate. |
Misc | | DNA Matches. 2 matches with John Ratliff and Charlotte White |
Residence | 1850 | In Western District, Tazewell, Virginia, United States. His mother Lottie is living with him in 1850.2 |
Residence | 1860 | In Buchanan, Virginia, United States. A John M Ratliff is living with him in 1860, 20 years old.4 |
Occupation | 1860 | Farmer.4 |
Military | | Possibly did NOT serve in Company D. Another William Rat(c)liff served according to this William's findagrave entry.5,1 |
Citations
- [S3769] Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/65568138/william-m-ratliff: accessed 01 June 2023), memorial page for William M. Ratliff (1814–1866), Find a Grave Memorial ID 65568138, citing Jim Ratliff Cemetery, Oakwood, Buchanan County, Virginia, USA; Maintained by BoatieMac (contributor 49125714).
- [S4031] "Wm Ratliff in the 1850 United States Federal Census." Ancestry https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/15590830:8054?indiv=try&h&db. Accessed 7 Jul. 2023.
- [S3766] Ratliff, Larry, Jack Hockett, and Gerald Ratliff. Some Descendants of John Ratliff & Charlotte White 1765-1997. Bowie, Md: Heritage Books, 2021., See images
You can search for snippets here:
https://www.google.com/books/edition/Some_Descendants_of_John_Ratliff_Charlot/EnIbAQAAMAAJ![Children of John Ratliff b1766](../st/picicon.png)
- [S4048] "William Ratliff in the 1860 United States Federal Census." Ancestry https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/34504806:7667?indiv=try&h&db. Accessed 8 Jul. 2023.
- [S4030] "William Ratliff/Ratcliffe Civil War." Ancestry https://www.ancestry.com/mediaui-viewer/tree/62710096/person/300195711333/media/164d7c0e-f5c2-4eb0-aabc-0de1910cfa66?indiv=try&h&db. Accessed 7 Jul. 2023.
Shadrack ("Shade") Ratliff
M, #2542, b. about 1806, d. 20 October 1878
Parents
Birth | about 1806 | In Richlands, Tazewell, Virginia, United States.1,2 |
Marriage | | |
Death | 20 October 1878 | In Richlands, Tazewell, Virginia, United States.1 |
Misc | | DNA Matches. Only one match and it is with John Ratliff and Charlotte White |
Residence | 1850 | In Jeffersonville, Tazewell, Virginia, United States.2 |
Citations
- [S3675] Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/7839796/shaderick-ratliff: accessed 16 May 2023), memorial page for Shaderick Ratliff (1808–20 Oct 1878), Find a Grave Memorial ID 7839796, citing Ratliff Cemetery, Richlands, Tazewell County, Virginia, USA; Maintained by Tim Vance (contributor 46588793)., Tombstone has death date and age in years. Name is spelled Shaderick
- [S5188] "Household of Shed Ratliff, 'United States Census, 1850'." Familysearch https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:2:M4RK-2B7. Accessed 23 Apr. 2024., See record for children's names
Abednego ("Ben") Ratliff
M, #2543, b. 1803, d. 4 June 1890
Parents
Birth | 1803 | In Tazewell, Tazewell, Virginia, United States.1,2,3 |
Marriage1,4,5 | | |
Death | 4 June 1890 | At age ~87 in Buchanan, Virginia, United States. Tombstone says 4 Jan 1890 but transcription of death record says 4 Jun 1890.1,3 |
Education | | Illiterate.2 |
Misc | | Wife? A tree listed him as marrying Mary Ann Childress (1829-1864) but his first wife had apparently not died until 1868. |
Misc | | More Chidren? Some trees list a lot more children Silas (1825-1896) Abednego Benjamin (1828-1911) Charlotte (1833-1883) Abigail (1834-1886) |
Residence | 1850 | In Western District, Tazewell, Virginia, United States.6 |
Residence | 1860 | Grundy in Buchanan, Virginia, United States. On same census sheet: Abednego Ratliff age 33, wife Mary age 32 and 7 children.7 |
Residence | 1870 | In Garden, Buchanan, Virginia, United States. Retired2 |
Residence | 1880 | In Garden, Buchanan, Virginia, United States. Widower.8 |
Citations
- [S3667] Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/248749561/abedingo-ratliff: accessed 16 May 2023), memorial page for Abedingo Ratliff (1804–4 Jan 1890), Find a Grave Memorial ID 248749561, citing Ratliff Cemetery on Fred Shortt Road, Oakwood, Buchanan County, Virginia, USA; Maintained by Daisey (contributor 48057293).
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- [S3666] "Alednzo Ratliff in the 1870 United States Federal Census." Ancestry https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/40158163:7163?indiv=try&h&db. Accessed 16 May. 2023.
- [S3671] "Abednego Ratliff in the Virginia, U.S., Deaths and Burials Index, 1853." 1917 https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/191483:2558?indiv=try&h&db. Accessed 16 May. 2023.
- [S3674] "Abidnego Ratliff in the Virginia, U.S., Select Marriages, 1785." 1940 https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/2674306:60214?indiv=try&h&pid=18845791086&db. Accessed 16 May. 2023.
- [S3673] "Shade B Ratliff in the Virginia, U.S., Death Records, 1912." 2014 https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/1448:9278?indiv=try&h&db. Accessed 16 May. 2023.
- [S3672] "Abednago Ratliff in the 1850 United States Federal Census." Ancestry https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/15590936:8054?indiv=try&h&db. Accessed 16 May. 2023.
- [S3668] "Abednego Ratliff in the 1860 United States Federal Census." Ancestry https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/33669898:7667?indiv=try&h&db. Accessed 16 May. 2023.
- [S3669] "Benjamin Ratliff in the 1880 United States Federal Census." Ancestry https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/13237280:6742?indiv=try&h&db. Accessed 16 May. 2023.
Lydia B. Ratliff
F, #2544, b. 1801, d. January 1862
Parents
Birth | 1801 | In Tazewell, Tazewell, Virginia, United States. |
Marriage | 12 July 1833 | In Tazewell, Virginia, United States.1,2,3 |
Death | January 1862 | At age ~61 in Buchanan, Virginia, United States. |
Misc | | DNA Matches. All 4 matches are with John Ratliff and Charlotte White |
Residence | 1840 | In Tazewell, Virginia, United States.4 |
Residence | 1850 | In New Kent, Virginia, United States.5 |
Residence | 1860 | In Buchanan, Virginia, United States. Living with son Shadrick Ratliff b ca 1820 .6 |
Citations
- [S3766] Ratliff, Larry, Jack Hockett, and Gerald Ratliff. Some Descendants of John Ratliff & Charlotte White 1765-1997. Bowie, Md: Heritage Books, 2021., See images
You can search for snippets here:
https://www.google.com/books/edition/Some_Descendants_of_John_Ratliff_Charlot/EnIbAQAAMAAJ![Children of John Ratliff b1766](../st/picicon.png)
- [S4042] "Lydia Ratcliff in the Virginia, U.S., Compiled Marriages, 1740." 1850 https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/1121896:3723?indiv=try&h&pid=130000307631&db. Accessed 8 Jul. 2023.
- [S4040] Brock, R. A. (Robert Alonzo)., Lewis, V. A. (Virgil Anson). (1888). Virginia and Virginians: eminent Virginians ... History of Virginia from settlement of Jamestown to close of the Civil War. Richmond, Va.: H.H. Hardesty. pages 747-748. Downloaded V2 and V2 8 Jul. 2023., This is on page 747-748 of Virginia and Virginians V2 by By Virgil Anson Lewis, Robert Alonzo Brock · 1996. I downloaded V1 and V2 from familysearch.org 7/8/2023.
- [S4043] "Lydia Ratliff in the 1840 United States Federal Census." Ancestry https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/3675948:8057?indiv=try&h&db. Accessed 8 Jul. 2023.
- [S4044] "Lydia Ratcliffe in the 1850 United States Federal Census." Ancestry https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/15365202:8054?indiv=try&h&db. Accessed 8 Jul. 2023.
- [S3665] "Household of Shadrick Ratliff, 'United States Census, 1860'." Familysearch https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:2:MW2W-GYF. Accessed 16 May. 2023.
Richard ("Dick") Ratliff
M, #2545, b. 1799, d. after 1870
Parents
Birth | 1799 | In Virginia, United States. |
Marriage | 28 December 1819 | In Floyd, Kentucky, United States. One record says 6 Jan 1820, the other says 28 Dec 1819.1,2,3 |
Death | after 1870 | |
Misc | | DNA Matches. There are 15 total and I checked about 6 or so and all were John Ratliff and Charlotte White. |
Residence | 1820 | In Floyd, Kentucky, United States.4 |
Residence | 1850 | In Pike, Kentucky, United States.5 |
Residence | 1860 | In District 1, Pike, Kentucky, United States.6 |
Residence | 1870 | Ashcamp in District 3, Pike, Kentucky, United States.7 |
Citations
- [S3678] "Kentucky, County Marriages, 1797." 1954 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2DN-Q2LJ. Accessed 16 May. 2023.
- [S3684] "Richard Ratcliff in the Kentucky, U.S., Compiled Marriages, 1802." 1850 https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/122755:2089?indiv=try&h&db. Accessed 16 May. 2023.
- [S5163] "DAR Genealogical Research Databases." Services https://services.dar.org/public/dar_research/search_adb/default.cfm?Action=Search&Last_Name=Childress&First_Name=Pleasant&sortby=Last_Name. Accessed 19 Apr. 2024., For full record, see:
Childers Pleasant b1761 DAR Genealogical Research Databases.pdf - [S3679] "Household of Richard Ratliff, 'United States Census, 1820'." Familysearch https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:2:1TF5-2SL. Accessed 16 May. 2023.
- [S3680] "United States Census, 1850." Familysearch https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M65V-V7K. Accessed 16 May. 2023.
- [S3681] "United States Census, 1860." Familysearch https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MZBJ-PFQ. Accessed 16 May. 2023.
- [S4034] "Richard Ratliff in the 1870 United States Federal Census." Ancestry https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/18788371:7163?indiv=try&h&db. Accessed 8 Jul. 2023.
Mary ("Polly") Ratliff
F, #2546, b. about 1797, d. before 1850
Parents
Birth | about 1797 | In Tazewell Co. Virginia, United States.1 |
Marriage | 17 January 1811 | In Tazewell, Virginia, United States.2,1,3 |
Death | before 1850 | Before the 1850 census She is missing from the 1850 census1,4,5 |
Misc | | DNA Matches. 9 John Ratliff and Charlotte White 1 David Morriset Gordon and Elizabeth Routt |
Misc | | Children.6 |
Residence | 1840 | In Tazewel, Virginia, United States. This is not her! But who?7 |
Residence | 1840 | In Tazewell, Virginia, United States.8 |
Citations
- [S5191] "DAR Genealogical Research Databases." Services https://services.dar.org/Public/DAR_Research/search_descendants/default.cfm?action=list&MyPrimary_Seqn=349264&MyLineageCount=1&Control_Min_Seqn=349264. Accessed 23 Apr. 2024., DAR record for his father George Asbury
- [S5189] "Virginia Marriages, 1785." 1940 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XRS1-H89. Accessed 23 Apr. 2024.
- [S5194] "Mary Ann (Ratliff) Asbury (1792-1858)." WikiTree FREE Family Tree https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Ratliff-1318. Accessed 23 Apr. 2024., This says she died a) "in 1824" and b) "30 Sep 1858". I've seen the latter date several times, but it is one day from her husband's death so I am suspicious becauseof that plus we also see other dates such as "in 1824" and "1848".
Her birth date is also the same year as her husband whereas in the DAR record it is 1797. - [S5195] Holtzclaw (Univ. of Richmond VA), Dr. B. C., Asburys of Virginia, 1961., I cannot find this book but it is quoted as above.
- [S5212] "John Asbury in the 1850 United States Federal Census." Ancestry https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/15585692:8054?indiv=try&h&pid=262463101048&db. Accessed 27 Apr. 2024.
- [S5213] "Ancestry.com." Virginia Genealogical Society Quarterly https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/6131/images/VGS_1968_01_01_0017?indiv=try&h&db. Accessed 27 Apr. 2024., OCRed the page. See PDF:
Asbury John b1792 in Virginia Genealogical Society Quarterly.pdf![Asbury John b1792 in Virginia Genealogical Socity Quarterly](../st/pdficon.png)
- [S5210] "Polly Asbury in the 1840 United States Federal Census." Ancestry https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/3675460:8057?indiv=try&h&pid=262463101161&db. Accessed 27 Apr. 2024.
- [S5211] "John Asbury in the 1840 United States Federal Census." Ancestry https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/3675760:8057?indiv=try&h&pid=262463101048&db. Accessed 27 Apr. 2024.
Abednego ("Benjamin") White
M, #2547, b. 1734, d. circa 1820
ABEDNEGO BENJAMIN WHITE (Whight; Wight),was born in Prince Georges Co. MD 1734 (1776c of MD) and died in Tazewell Co. VA [TCV] circa Feb 1820. Abednego may have been a brother of Shadrack White who m. Gledis and who is listed in Washington Co. VA records as early as the 1770's. This Shadrack brought with him toe the area an already aged mother named Mary, also mentioned in Washington Co. records. Abednego's parentage has not been established; however, the gleanings below from the Order Books of TCV provide some clues to assist the researcher in further tracing of this family. Firstly, there were several branches of WHITE (etc.) in the Prince Georges Co. MD area, a number of whom were Quakers. The recording of the birth of Abednego's daughter, Charlotte, in the records of St. John's Anglican (now Episcopal) Parish in that county indicates that the family from which ABEDNEGO derived was of the conformist persuasion (Established Church). Secondly, the court statement that his name was originally "Whight" (Wight?) will also likely be of research benefit. There was a family "Wight" in the Prince Georges Co. MD vicinity, for example, Mary Wight m. (1) Samuel Taylor who d. 1761; lived at "Taylor's Pasture"; Mary's dau., Verlinda Taylor m. Moses Orme, Jr., s/o Moses Orme Sr. & Anne Macknew (whose brother, William Macknew was an early settler to Fincastle, now Washington Co. VA, in 1773).
Abednego Benjamin White was already circa 36 years old when he m. cl770, MARY . By 1776, they had had the following children:
A.l. (female) WHITE, b. cl771-2; age4y in 1776c ofMD; not named in Abednego's estate. She might have died as a child or remained in MD.
A.2. CHARLOTTE WHITE, b. Prince Georges Co. MD 12 Feb 1774, "d/o Benjamin & Mary White"; d. in Buchanan or Tazewell Co. VA after 1850; m. c 1796-8, JOHN RATCLIFFE [Ratliff; Ratliffe, Radcliff, etc.] (c 1765-c 1837), believed by Ratcliffe/Radcliffe researcher, Mr. Lany Ratliff, St. Albans, WV to have been the s/o Reuben Ratcliff & Frances , a presumption for which substantial information exists to support. Charlotte is listed in the 1776c of Pr. Georges Co. MD as the female age 3y (She was a. 2y, "going-on" three years at the census taking.). As their children shall be a subject of future publication by Mr. Larry Ratliff, I will enumerate here only a plain listing of their children, as known or by conjecture: Richard; Lydia (Lydia married Richard Ratcliff, s/o Richard Ratcliffe, Sr. of Montgomery, my ancestors); Abednego Benjamin; Shadrack; Elijah (?); Reuben; Rebecca (m. Samuel Steel!); William, and Nancy (?).
Indeed, given his age, Abednego White may have been married before he married Mary . After her death, he married bet 1783-89, (2) ELIZABETH, wid. of George STEELE. The Steele family had long been in Pr. Georges Co. MD. where on 22 Dec 1752 in St. John's Parish, a Lvdia Steele was christened. A Mary Steel m. there on 03 Oct 1796 to Richard Bryan, also in St. John's Parish.
Parents
Father | John Wight (b. 1713, d. 1782) |
Mother | Anne (b. 1719, d. after 1776) |
Birth | 1734 | In Prince Georges County, Maryland, British America.1,2 |
Marriage | about 17701,2,3 | |
Marriage | between 1788 and 17891,4 | |
Marriage | 27 July 18155,6 | |
Death | circa 1820 | In Tazewell County, Virginia, United States.1,2 |
Religious Affiliation | | Abednego ("Benjamin") White was affiliated with Anglican.1 |
Education | | Illiterate.4 |
Misc | | DNA matches - good. 7/20/2024 DNA connected to Samuel Anderson Judy has 1 match with shadrack - Abednego and mary Blakemore, which would appear to be wrong... Scott has 3 with Shadrack and 1 with Meshack Shacrack - all 3 with John Ratliff and Charlotte (there is a Ratliff in the line) Meshack 1 with Abednego White only, as it should be
Feb 2024 I have 27 matches with Abednego. 24 with Charlotte, 3 with Shadrack (half). Scott has 52 matches with Abednego. 45 with Charlotte, 5 with Shadrack (half), 1 with Meshack (half) and 1 with a Zachariah (half) |
Misc | | Abednego = Ben. Not only her father person, but other Abednego descendants were called Ben. Prounounce it and you will see why. The step from Ben to Benjamin, though, is yet another step. Did it really happen or did people just assume that if someone is called Ben he must be a Benjamin?7 |
Residence | 1776 | In Maryland, United States.8 |
Misc | 1801 | Deed to John Ratliff in Russell County, Virginia, United States.9 |
Residence | October 1809 | In Tazewell County, Virginia, United States. Served on grand jury.10 |
Citations
- [S4051] WHITE, RATCLIFFE (Ratdifr, Ratiiir, Ratiiffc) & SOME RELATED FAMILIES
MENTIONS IN TAZEWELL CO. VA (TCV) ORDER BOOKS 1801-1840
Jack Hockett, 270 Iven Ave., 2-c, St. David's, PA 19087, 04 Sep 1995. Downloaded 7/9/2023 from familysearch.org., Downloaded from familysearch.org, the filename is
WHITE, RATCLIFFE & SOME RELATED FAMILIES - FS - FL931427_TN-699602.pdf - [S6734] "Abednego White (bef. 1748." abt. 1819) ID/Link/URL/Cite/UserID https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/White-85923. Accessed 26 Sep. 2024.
- [S4055] "Maryland Births and Christenings, 1650." 1995 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:HYGV-FJT2. Accessed 10 Jul. 2023.
- [S4105] "Steele, Ratcliff, White." Ancestry https://www.ancestry.com/mediaui-viewer/tree/74137104/person/38488564520/media/92a92359-ff47-434b-b6b5-c4cd2d9c0f7e?indiv=try&h&db. Accessed 15 Jul. 2023. Downloaded 15 Jul. 2023., See PDF of entire document
Steele, Ratcliff, White from ancestry.pdf - [S4113] "Abednego White in the Virginia, U.S., Compiled Marriages, 1740." 1850 https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/609:3723?indiv=try&h&db. Accessed 15 Jul. 2023.
- [S4115] "Annals of Tazewell County, Virginia from 1800 to 1922 in two volumes." Ancestry.com https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/56:10528?indiv=try&h&pid=18532640319&db. Accessed 15 Jul. 2023., Image available
- [S4273] "Charlotte White (1765-aft.1850)." WikiTree FREE Family Tree https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/White-47080. Accessed 31 Aug. 2023., Not only her father person, but other Abednego descendants were called Ben. Prounounce it and you will see why. The step from Ben to Benjamin, though, is yet another step. Did it really happen or did people just assume that if someone is called Ben he must be a Benjamin?
- [S4104] "Abednego White in the New York, Genealogical Records, 1675." 1920 https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/764575:7831?indiv=try&h&pid=132200046127&db. Accessed 15 Jul. 2023.`, There must be more details available because other peole say this census has Abednego as 42 years old, his wife Mary 24, two females ages 3 and 4.
- [S5970] "Ancestry.com." Annals of Tazewell County, Virginia from 1800 to 1922 in two volumes https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/10528/images/dvm_LocHist000179-00145-0?indiv=try&h&db. Accessed 20 Jul. 2024.
- [S4114] "Annals of Tazewell County, Virginia from 1800 to 1922 in two volumes." Ancestry.com https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/263:10528?indiv=try&h&pid=18532640319&db. Accessed 15 Jul. 2023., See attached image
![Abednego White serves on Grand Jury](../st/picicon.png)
Mary Blackburn
F, #2548, b. about 1754, d. between 1776 and 1791
Basically nothing is known of her but her first name and about when she died. But DNA says she is descended from Archibald Blackburn.
Parents
Birth | about 17541 | |
Marriage | about 17702,3,4 | |
Death | between 1776 and 17915 | |
Misc | | DNA Matches 1. 9/28/2024 DNA on Marthenia Ratliff 1 DNA match with Abednego and Mary with Shadrack, which I thought was a son not of Mary but of Ratliff wife. |
Misc | | Who was the mother of Charlotte White? This tree denies Mary (Blackburn) White was the wife of Abednego White "Abednego White - 1776 census listed Abednego age 42, wife Mary 24, female 3 , female 4. That means his wife was born about 1752 and almost 20 years younger than this Mary. Abednego married second 1788/89 Elizabeth Ratcliff widow of George Steele and had a 16/17 year old daughter, Charlotte by a previous marriage.[8] Another online tree said his wife was Mary Blakemore, not Blackburn. " https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Blackburn-5368
Some people say it is Blackwell |
Misc | | William Blackburn and Sarah Fletcher. DNA matches with children of Sarah Fletcher, no sign of Rachel Scott. Not convincing proof, but better than nothing. |
Last Edited | 1 October 2024 |
Citations
- [S6143] "England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975." Ancestry.com https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/132602207:9841?indiv=try&h&pid=162164064304&db. Accessed 6 Aug. 2024., This is not necessarily proof, since it is so vague, but it's a hint.
- [S4051] WHITE, RATCLIFFE (Ratdifr, Ratiiir, Ratiiffc) & SOME RELATED FAMILIES
MENTIONS IN TAZEWELL CO. VA (TCV) ORDER BOOKS 1801-1840
Jack Hockett, 270 Iven Ave., 2-c, St. David's, PA 19087, 04 Sep 1995. Downloaded 7/9/2023 from familysearch.org., Downloaded from familysearch.org, the filename is
WHITE, RATCLIFFE & SOME RELATED FAMILIES - FS - FL931427_TN-699602.pdf - [S6734] "Abednego White (bef. 1748." abt. 1819) ID/Link/URL/Cite/UserID https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/White-85923. Accessed 26 Sep. 2024.
- [S4055] "Maryland Births and Christenings, 1650." 1995 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:HYGV-FJT2. Accessed 10 Jul. 2023.
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MENTIONS IN TAZEWELL CO. VA (TCV) ORDER BOOKS 1801-1840
Jack Hockett, 270 Iven Ave., 2-c, St. David's, PA 19087, 04 Sep 1995. Downloaded 7/9/2023 from familysearch.org.
Louisa Vicey Matney
F, #2549, b. 1801, d. before September 1870
Birth | 1801 | |
Marriage1,2,3 | | |
Death | before September 1870 | Husband widower in 1880 census, Louisa Vicey not in 1870 census |
Citations
- [S3667] Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/248749561/abedingo-ratliff: accessed 16 May 2023), memorial page for Abedingo Ratliff (1804–4 Jan 1890), Find a Grave Memorial ID 248749561, citing Ratliff Cemetery on Fred Shortt Road, Oakwood, Buchanan County, Virginia, USA; Maintained by Daisey (contributor 48057293).
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- [S3674] "Abidnego Ratliff in the Virginia, U.S., Select Marriages, 1785." 1940 https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/2674306:60214?indiv=try&h&pid=18845791086&db. Accessed 16 May. 2023.
- [S3673] "Shade B Ratliff in the Virginia, U.S., Death Records, 1912." 2014 https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/1448:9278?indiv=try&h&db. Accessed 16 May. 2023.